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Refinery 29: "Money Diary - A Submariner On £43k In Her Last Week On Shore For Months"

soleil

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"This week: "I'm a Royal Navy submariner and this is my final week at base before I embark on my third deterrent patrol, on board one of the four ballistic missile submarines which serve as the UK's at sea nuclear deterrent. At least one of these submarines is on patrol under the sea, every minute of every day, ready to respond.

It’s a really busy week for me as a logistics officer, as it's my job to make sure the submarine has everything it needs to sail for months at a time, from spare parts to all the food for the crew, not forgetting the loo roll! I also have to conduct 'officer of the day' duties, where I act as the captain’s representative, responsible for the safety and security of the submarine. On top of this I need to make sure that I and all my team have sorted all our personal preparations ready to go to sea again, and there is always some last-minute training to do!"

 

Ageing_Gracefully

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"This week: "I'm a Royal Navy submariner and this is my final week at base before I embark on my third deterrent patrol, on board one of the four ballistic missile submarines which serve as the UK's at sea nuclear deterrent. At least one of these submarines is on patrol under the sea, every minute of every day, ready to respond.

It’s a really busy week for me as a logistics officer, as it's my job to make sure the submarine has everything it needs to sail for months at a time, from spare parts to all the food for the crew, not forgetting the loo roll! I also have to conduct 'officer of the day' duties, where I act as the captain’s representative, responsible for the safety and security of the submarine. On top of this I need to make sure that I and all my team have sorted all our personal preparations ready to go to sea again, and there is always some last-minute training to do!"

Says she lives in her own therefore I take it she is a singlie. How, therefore can she claim LSA and GYH allowances?
 

SONAR-BENDER

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Sounds like she is the Supply Officer, as was.

Anyone recall the famous fraud years ago whereby someone opened an account in the name of S.O. Cash....
Yep, just make your cheque payable to SO Cash.
 
I was wondering the same thing. Doesn't mention her paying food and accom during her time alongside in Faslavatory either.

Mmmm - Log O, formerly S & S, aka White Mafia.

First thing they learn is every trick in the Book known to Pussers only then cunningly apply those rules & regs to their own specific happenstances whilst forever secreting entitlement details from all & every A N Others.

Who can blame 'em?

Edit to add her revealing clue: "...make sure that I and all my team have sorted all our personal preparations ready to go to sea again...>>
 

Dusty70

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Mmmm - Log O, formerly S & S, aka White Mafia.

First thing they learn is every trick in the Book known to Pussers only then cunningly apply those rules & regs to their own specific happenstances whilst forever secreting entitlement details from all & every A N Others.

Who can blame 'em?
No I didn't.............................................................................much......................................................only when absolutely necessary
 

Ageing_Gracefully

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I was wondering the same thing. Doesn't mention her paying food and accom during her time alongside in Faslavatory either.
She did point out her Mess Bill to which some food was directed. However I thought a bill of £70 for the month quite low.
 
I was wondering the same thing. Doesn't mention her paying food and accom during her time alongside in Faslavatory either.

Submariners don’t pay for accom alongside (unless things have changed) because they can’t live on the boat.

£70 for food a month plus mess fees sounds about right. I doubt she drinks.

I mean not everyone in the RN is a functioning alcoholic...
 

Ageing_Gracefully

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LSA is paid for every day the SM is not in base port.
She owns her own home, gets GYH.

Simples!
I thought separation allowance was paid when one was separated by deployment etc from one's spouse and GYH also was to get one home to their family. I have not heard of singles being allowed these allowances.
 

Ageing_Gracefully

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Submariners don’t pay for accom alongside (unless things have changed) because they can’t live on the boat.

£70 for food a month plus mess fees sounds about right. I doubt she drinks.

I mean not everyone in the RN is a functioning alcoholic...
I take it you did not read her story. She had a cabin in the shore Mess and only slept on board when duty officer.

Ok rethinking this, what you are saying that once they get their dolphins submariners stop paying F&A charges? Until I assume they are posted away to a staff or non boat based slot?
 
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I take it you did not read her story. She had a cabin in the shore Mess and only slept on board when duty officer.

Ok rethinking this, what you are saying that once they get their dolphins submariners stop paying F&A charges? Until I assume they are posted away to a staff or non boat based slot?

On a surface ship, you can live onboard whilst alongside. You can't do that in a boat, so they're entitled to free shoreside accommodation.

Equally, you used to get some of your meals for free onboard. I'm not sure how that works for submariners, but if you're regularly duty (she will be) she'll only pay for a proportion for the month: duty meals are free.
I thought separation allowance was paid when one was separated by deployment etc from one's spouse and GYH also was to get one home to their family. I have not heard of singles being allowed these allowances.

Nope, LSA is regardless of marital status. GYH relies on you owning a house (or at least 'maintaining' one).
 

D108

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Says she lives in her own therefore I take it she is a singlie. How, therefore can she claim LSA and GYH allowances?

Having read the whole diary the bit about decorating her BOYFRIENDS car gives it away

I hope you weren’t in charge of authenticating EAM’s


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Union Jack

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Sounds like she is the Supply Officer, as was.

Anyone recall the famous fraud years ago whereby someone opened an account in the name of S.O. Cash....
Yep, just make your cheque payable to SO Cash.

I believe that the account concerned was opened in the name of "Stanley Oscar Achilles" when ACHILLES was visiting New Zealand on a group deployment in the dim and distant past - probably even before you joined!

Amused too by the lack of detail concerning:

"A quick trip into town to stock up on magazines for the ship’s company to read when we're on patrol. I go mad in WHSmith and come out with over 100 – I need to cater for a wide range of hobbies!"

In view of the lack of space and the necessity to be secured for sea at all times, some can very helpfully be stowed in that little cubbyhole in the wardroom heads......

Jack
 
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