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Don't ring any gongs with me however, is there any body out there heard of a Tas-ape called Percival Pickersgill. Was watching a telly prog. years ago and seen him strutting his stuff down at the pool in Raleigh. Was a chief then, I last seen him on H.M.S.Naiad (R.I.P.) as the killick of 3m Starbd sailors grot. 8)