Recalling Former Serving Personnel

smoothbore

Lantern Swinger
I left about 4.5 years ago after 20 years service, the last 6 of which was in a couple of Joint Sevice Int appointments. I was an analyst for a while and then the lead Int planner for all planned and deployed operations inc the ops post Sept 11th. So what? Well, I knew that I was on the retired list but eligible for a recall, so having got myself a civvy job I observed the run up to the inevitable Gulf War and was expecting a recall. Particularly as the 3 things that the UK forces are always short of are medics, signals staff and int experienced people.

No recall occurred so I made a few quiet enquiries with a friend of mine who had taken my job on at PJHQ. I was told that PJHQ had asked all 3 services to recall or call up Int Reservists but the 2SL/CNH's answer was roughly along the lines of, "don't be silly, we don't have an Int Branch so we can't have any Int qualified reservists". My friend mentioned a few names and was then told that the Personnel IT system had us all down as "Warfare Officers (Non Spec)" & therefore they could not identify who was Int experienced or not!

Still no recall occurred. Don't get me wrong, I didn't want to rejoin (although I would have done my duty had I been recalled) but it is a pathetic state of affairs that people like me are qualified and experienced in shortage categories but still don't get a recall, even though the Service is entitled to do so.

Shall I bin my uniform now...I would appear to have no use for it anymore and I could do with the storage space!
 

Slop_Jockey

Badgeman
Get it on Ebay sold all my uniform on there just after i went outside!
People will buy it - badges, lanyards the lot any old crap you got, some cabbage will buy it.... Soon cleared a space to store some more junk
 
You are a reservist untill age 55 and liable to recall if they want you!!


Biggest gripe is that we don't get paid for it . Army guys I knew used to
do a muster once a year and get a bounty!
 
On my 55th birthday i got a nice letter from M`lords thanking me for my reserve service, up till then , didn`t know i was in the reserve.
 

Pierre_Argh

Lantern Swinger
Army guys I knew used to
do a muster once a year and get a bounty!
...Greenie, sure they weren't TA (aka volounteer reserves, who undertake readiness training... like the RNR, hence the Bounty?)

Higthepig... The Reserve commitment for ex-regulars is well documented, and was certainly mentioned in the bumph I received on leaving, so shouldn't have been a surprise?

I've heard a rumour that the Army has mobilised ex-regulars for service in Iraq (probably having run out of regulars and TAs)... and this was followed by the suggestion that the Volunteer Reserves might be done away with, and that ex-regulars would be utilised to augment when needed in future?

Any comments on that? Big problem I can see is that, as a VR, I have to notify my employer of that commitment and they will get get compensation if I am mobilised...

However if it become common-place for ex-regs to be wisked away to the far-flung at the Govts whim, the job prospects for anyone leaving the Mob in future might be severly affected. Thoughts?
 
Greenie said:
You are a reservist untill age 55 and liable to recall if they want you!!


Biggest gripe is that we don't get paid for it . Army guys I knew used to
do a muster once a year and get a bounty!
It's a good thing the reservist liability doesn't apply to ex-RNXS bods or I would be in trouble! :lol: Mind you the Navy would be in for the bigger shock! :wink:
 

Tartan_Terrier

Badgeman
Pierre_Argh said:
Army guys I knew used to
do a muster once a year and get a bounty!
...Greenie, sure they weren't TA (aka volounteer reserves, who undertake readiness training... like the RNR, hence the Bounty?)
Greenie is quite correct Pierre, until 1991-1992? regular reserves got called in once a year. Kit check, docs, a laughably short bit of classroom stuff (skill at arms, nbc, or whatever) and then got paid 75 quid (100-25 for tax :roll: ) and went on the p1ss!
 
BEING AN EX CABBAGE MECHANIC MYSELF. I FEEL REAL SAD FOR THE SLOP JOCKEY OUTING HIS KIT ON EBAY. WELL DONE THE S&S BRANCH ALWAYS TRYING TO GET A FEW EXTRA BOB OUT OF THE KITTY, WHEN HE'S 50 HE'LL TRY TO BUY IT BACK FOR HIS KIDDIES, AND LIKE A COOK HE'LL GRIPE (HOW MUCH!!!!).. SINCE LEAVING THE RN I HAVE SERVED ALL OVER THE WORLD UNDER DIFFERENT FLAGS FOR DIFFERENT CAUSES, BUT OUR MAGGIE MADE IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR ME TO SERVE ENGLAND AGAIN. I LOVED SMOOTHBORES GRIPE ABOUT BEING LEFT OUT, ALL THE EX'S I KNOW THAT HAVE BEEN BACK, HAVE COME BACK UNFIT FOR CIVVY LIFE AND THERE ARE'NT ENOUGH COUCH DOCTORS TO HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FOR ALL PERSONS SERVING IN COMBAT ZONES A BASIC INTEL IS REQUIRED. ALL INTEL BRANCES =2 BRAIN CELLS (and hopefully one knows what the other is doing)
S & S BRANCHES =3 BRAIN CELLS(one to read use by date & the second to keep an eye on the third)
SEAMAN = (as long as they can remember their last three)
OFFICERS (NEED NOT APPLY)
 

Pierre_Argh

Lantern Swinger
SG I'm sure you're about to get inundated with messages from other rationeers telling you NOT TO SHOUT (i.e. use capitals) we can all read lower case just as well as uppercase.
 

BusterQuin

War Hero
After serving my 22 (+2yrs as a junior) and leaving in '02 I received a letter last year saying that my reserve commitment had ended, before the official time (5 years I think) Not that I would have gone back anyway, they had a freebie 2yrs non-reckonable service out of me

On the subject of kit, instead of selling on Ebay, your local Sea Cadet unit would be grateful for your old kit
 

Sea_Dodger

Lantern Swinger
Slop_Jockey said:
Get it on Ebay sold all my uniform on there just after i went outside!
People will buy it - badges, lanyards the lot any old crap you got, some cabbage will buy it.... Soon cleared a space to store some more junk
If you see any tropical shoes on ebay give me a buzz.......Joining a ship soon and last saw my tropics 10 years ago!
 
Greenie is quite correct Pierre, until 1991-1992? regular reserves got called in once a year. Kit check, docs, a laughably short bit of classroom stuff (skill at arms, nbc, or whatever) and then got paid 75 quid (100-25 for tax :roll: ) and went on the p1ss![/quote]

Not quite sure what you mean here, I left in July 79 after 24 years, and was never recalled, neither was i advised to keep my kit, perhaps ive read you wrong.
 

slim

War Hero
I left in 85 after 22 years. I was advised to keep my kit and told that I was subject to recall until age 55. At 55 my navy pension increased with inflation and I think I received a letter informing me that my reserve commitment had ended. At no time in the 15 years did I have to report to barracks. Didn't get the £75.00 either and I would have enjoyed a PU at crown expense at Portsmouth or Plymouth .
 

fido

MIA
slim said:
I left in 85 after 22 years. I was advised to keep my kit and told that I was subject to recall until age 55. At 55 my navy pension increased with inflation and I think I received a letter informing me that my reserve commitment had ended. At no time in the 15 years did I have to report to barracks. Didn't get the £75.00 either and I would have enjoyed a PU at crown expense at Portsmouth or Plymouth .
Lucky you - I left in '92 after 35 years (Ganges Boy to Lt Cdr) [and a Warrant punishment on the way]) and then received a letter that said quote "Officers are reminded that they are subject to continuous recall for Naval service, however, it is unlikely that an officer will be recalled for service at sea after aged 60" unquote. I was recalled in '93 and served again until Feb '94. I still have my kit but, funnily enough, some B*****d keeps sneaking in and swapping it for a smaller size whilst leaving the same lacing and medal ribbons - I'll catch him at it one day! Anybody need a Burberry or an out of date Gasbag?
 

slim

War Hero
Had to return my gasmask on leaving. Perhaps Occiffers are fitter than us Ratings so have to do the extra 5 years. (Bet like me your warrent involved alcohol somewhere on the way). Put your Burbarry on Ebay, but don't let the Chavs know your address or they will just nick it.
 

andym

War Hero
The only this i handed back apart form PAybook and ID card was my S6 resp.The rest i sold or gave away.Just hope the next 9 years they dont get short!
 

fido

MIA
slim said:
Had to return my gasmask on leaving. Perhaps Occiffers are fitter than us Ratings so have to do the extra 5 years. (Bet like me your warrent involved alcohol somewhere on the way). Put your Burbarry on Ebay, but don't let the Chavs know your address or they will just nick it.
Nah - I goffered a baby tiff in 1960 who was trooping me for which (honest guv) I was innocent - no way I was going to let him get away with that so I sloshed him. Trouble was, I was a nineteen year old NAM(AE) and he was a twenty something AA5 - no contest at Cdr's Table - result - seven days in cells and second class for conduct. If I saw him today - I'd probably put him away for good - lying B*****d!
 

Tartan_Terrier

Badgeman
higthepig said:
Tartan_Terrier said:
Greenie is quite correct Pierre, until 1991-1992? regular reserves got called in once a year. Kit check, docs, a laughably short bit of classroom stuff (skill at arms, nbc, or whatever) and then got paid 75 quid (100-25 for tax :roll: ) and went on the p1ss!
Not quite sure what you mean here, I left in July 79 after 24 years, and was never recalled, neither was i advised to keep my kit, perhaps ive read you wrong.
If you look at what I was replying to, you'll see that I was referring to the Army rather than the Navy. I'm quite surprised that the Navy didn't have a similar system though.
 

smoothbore

Lantern Swinger
hammockhead said:
That's all changing apparently, the RN is developing a formal Int specialisation.
Any details? Or is it just a "re-branding" of the EW and CT branches?

What about imagery analysis or HUMINT? How does this affect the Officer Corps and does the development of a formal int specialisation mean that there will be a proper appointing plan to develop Senior RN Officers for Joint intelligence appointments?
 
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