Questions Concerning Officer (pilot) Positions in RN

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  1. Hi there, i'm new to these forums and i'm intending to apply to the royal navy as a Warfare Officer or perhaps even a Pilot, im still deciding upon the two. I don't think i will apply until i have my degree in public services and am very certain that these are the two positions that i am most serious about.
    However i have some questions concerning these positions.
    I understand that there is possibly is a waiting list for these positions and they will probably take only the best of the best. But my father who also served in the Royal Navy for 20years has serious doubts about me joining.

    This may sound cheeky but basically i need to know.

    My dad said from experience the officers and pilots he knew were mainly lads from rich families who went to grammer schools and had degrees in very select universities. If this is the case is there any chance of a chap like me (an average lad who went to an average school and is going to an average university) getting in on these positions.

    My other question is about how the officer/pilot application process differs from the normal application (i have read the sticky about the application process - but i'm presuming that it was generalised to make it straight forward).
    How many extra steps are there?
    What kind of tests would you take?
    Do you need any previous flying experience - for pilot (ala ATC)?
    How much longer is the officer Application compared to the Rating one?

    I hope this isn't asking too much but i would like to no more about what i am getting myself into, i have read a fair bit of information but i couldnt find enough on the RN website, which is why i have requested for some information packs (which should arrive in a couple of days).#

    Thanks in return

  2. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    Hi Andy & welcome to RR.

    First off things have changed a bit since Dad's day, so just a couple of pointers & doubtless there'll be others. You don't have to talk posh to be an officer, forget the myth.

    Secondly a degree in Public Services makes you no more eligible to join as a Warfare Officer/ Aircrew Officer than someone without a degree, so beware accumulating a debt uneccessarily.

    You categorically need 5 GCSE's, including Maths & English at Grade C or better & 140 UCAS points at A2 level- don't fall into the trap of Sixth Form colleges that tell you "This NVQ is worth "X" amount of GCSE's or A Levels- unless accredited by UCAS, they ain't!

    Financially as long as you've got the basic 5 GCSE's, you can apply for officer from within the service. If you join as a rating, say aged 16, you're on £190 per week after stoppages as opposed to £30 a week on EMA for two years, then £10-£20,000 debt through Uni.

    You need to undertake Flying Aptitude Tests which do not require any former flying experience.

    Officer applications are dependent on: The amount of applicants X number of places / Number of courses being run. It varies.

    Best bet is speak to your local AFCO before you embark on further education or ring 08456 07 55 55- they're open late!
  3. There being so few Grammar Schools these days, just imagine who undermanned the Royal Navy would be for Officer's if they did come from Grammar schools.

    I don't have a degree and have applied for Warfare Officer, and passed the selection tests, first bit of advice is learn to spell Grammar!
  4. silverfox

    silverfox War Hero Moderator Book Reviewer

    Lesson One - don't pick people up for the sort of mistakes that you then proceed to make yourself, otherwise you will end up looking like a right cock.

    Like you do right now......
  5. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    Perfick! :thumright:
  6. Maybe that's why he's a "Potential Officer". I weep at night.
  7. Boy do I feel like an idiot right now..... Sorry Andy!
  8. Just a quick one on pilots. Ever had asthma? Don't bother applying.
  9. Weep even more, I passed the AIB!
  10. One_Eyed_Willy wrote:
    Maybe that's why he's a "Potential Officer". I weep at night.

    Weep even more, I passed the AIB!

    We are short of pilots, every one wants to fly fast jets..... Go for it
  11. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    Really, which fast jets are we short of pilots for Pinch?

    Do you mean the ones we haven't got yet or the ones we just got rid of?
  12. Cheers for the feedback guys, some of it helped me put things into perspective - and don't worry potential_officer, i don't get bothered by anything as petty as that :p

    However i cannot make any final decisions until i get my grades (16th august) but one other thing i do have on my mind is the deal with Ranking.
    Say if i don't get the grades and sign up as a rating doing something like Air Engineering Technician or Navy Airman is there a way that through promotion you can eventually train to become a pilot or an observer?

    Sorry to sound like a complete idiot, but the information I've read hasn't really been all that clear about the possibilities - it's just if i flunk sixth form i don't want to go back there again and would rather move on either as Warfare Specialist (I think anyway at the moment).
  13. Take it from me, an average girl who went to an average school, if you are good enough and want it enough it doesn't matter in the slightest what car your old man drives or the salary he is rocking. I had exactly the same preconceptions as both your father and yourself but I can say that it is tosh. During the course of the AIB not once was my 'family status' discussed or suggested.

    I sat my A-Levels, went to uni and gained an MA and although I have no regrets I do wish that I had taken the time to sit down and really weigh up my options post 18. I am now left with a degree that I don't want to use (Architecture), and more debt than a small African nation. Don't be in such a hurry to make a decision that will inevitably dictate the course of your life for the next few years (and beyond). Travel, mull it over, get a few hash jobs and then decide.
  14. Andy3012

    Joined: Jul 13, 2007
    Posts: 2

    Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:33 pm Post subject: Re: Questions Concerning Officer (pilot) Positions in RN


    Cheers for the feedback guys, some of it helped me put things into perspective - and don't worry potential_officer, i don't get bothered by anything as petty as that
    Typical possible grunter!!!!! ^_^;
  15. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    Cheers Sara, my point exactly.


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