Question about training as engineer apprenticeship or seaman apprenticeship.

Jack16

Newbie
Hi guys. Sorry if this question has already been answered but i cant seem to find anything that goes into detail about what i am going to ask.

When you do your initial training is it the same as the normal royal navy recruits in regards to all the shouting and stuff like that? Or is it more relaxed? From what i have seen and researched it seems a bit more relaxed but i cant find great info on the training.

Do you sleep in a barracks or do you have your own room with only 1 or 2 more people and do you have a bit of privacy for things like showers?

This is not related to training but does anyone know if aspergers will stop me from getting a ENG1 medical certificate? I am hoping it doesn't since my dream of joining the army was crushed but the aspergers doesn't effect me alot and only makes me a bit shy so i cant imagine it would stop me.
 
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Hi,
The initial training is different to the Royal Navy method.
They start at initial training or Phase 1 and to the militarisation phase.
They then do their specialisation training after this. Some stay at Raleigh but some go to Collingwood or Sultan.

Our RFA new entrants start at phase 2 on the apprenticeship scheme and this is the professonal training and consists of an intro week followed by 3 weeks of functional skills. This is followed by the specialisation training as below:

The training at Raleigh is then as follows: Chefs do another 5 months (6 in total), Stewards do another 10 weeks (14 in total) and deck do another 6 weeks (10 in total). The deck then go off to sea for 4 months and then come back for part 2 of their training for another 4 weeks, versus the stwds and chefs who do not come back to Raleigh.

Engineering and comms still do the functional skills but again do different amounts of training at Sultan and Collingwood.

As regards accommodation at Raleigh it is 8 man rooms with a shower block, but individual cubicles.

As far the medical question goes you would need to contact an ENG1 doctor this link gives you contact details:

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/610455/MCA_Approved_Doctors_in_UK_24_April_2017.pdf

Seamanship and engineering training are very different courses. Seamanship is practical from the outset versus the engineering which has more theory elements as is more technical in the teaching.

What interests you more?

If you have further questions do not hesitate to ask...
 

Jack16

Newbie
I think i would be more interested in seamanship since it would be more physical and hands on. Would it be uncommon for a 16 year old to do it? From what i have seen most guys are 30 years old and above. I was a little worried about the shower situation due to body confidence issues i have but that should not be a problem with individual cubicles since nobody wold see you naked.

What does the intro week and functional skills consist of?

Do you have free time at night to do things like go to a gym on the base and things like that?
 

Random

Lantern Swinger
Also could/should i get my ENG1 before i start the application process?
You would need one before you joined. However it's probably best to see how your interviews go before coughing up the £80 (the RFA will reimburse this if they accept your application).

As for your concerns about age, physically i have met 16 - 68 year olds in the company. IMOHO most of us have never grown up and still act like we are in our teens or early 20s!
 

Jack16

Newbie
You would need one before you joined. However it's probably best to see how your interviews go before coughing up the £80 (the RFA will reimburse this if they accept your application).

As for your concerns about age, physically i have met 16 - 68 year olds in the company. IMOHO most of us have never grown up and still act like we are in our teens or early 20s!

I am getting really excited about it and will put the application in within the next week or two. About how long would i have before i go to training? I am a fatty at the moment and need to loose about 2 or 3 stone, maybe even a bit more to be at a healthy weight. Would that be possible to do so before training starts?
 

Random

Lantern Swinger
I am getting really excited about it and will put the application in within the next week or two. About how long would i have before i go to training? I am a fatty at the moment and need to loose about 2 or 3 stone, maybe even a bit more to be at a healthy weight. Would that be possible to do so before training starts?
Improving your personal health is never a bad idea, though I admit I am crap at it myself ( the gym and I are not friends).

As for how long you would have, I think your best bet would be to have a browse of these forums. There are a lot of posts discuss applications and the time lines. Sometimes it can be a couple of months others seem to have taken up until a year and a half until training started.

Unfortunately there are so many variables it's not possible to guess how long your process will take.

Best of luck with your application
 

Jack16

Newbie
Improving your personal health is never a bad idea, though I admit I am crap at it myself ( the gym and I are not friends).
I hate the gym lol. I always have bad confidence in places like that but i will start going on runs and do alot of body weight training, then i will be as fit as i would with a gym. Thanks for all the good advice you have gave me :)
 

Jack16

Newbie
Hi,
The initial training is different to the Royal Navy method.
They start at initial training or Phase 1 and to the militarisation phase.
They then do their specialisation training after this. Some stay at Raleigh but some go to Collingwood or Sultan.

Our RFA new entrants start at phase 2 on the apprenticeship scheme and this is the professonal training and consists of an intro week followed by 3 weeks of functional skills. This is followed by the specialisation training as below:

The training at Raleigh is then as follows: Chefs do another 5 months (6 in total), Stewards do another 10 weeks (14 in total) and deck do another 6 weeks (10 in total). The deck then go off to sea for 4 months and then come back for part 2 of their training for another 4 weeks, versus the stwds and chefs who do not come back to Raleigh.

Engineering and comms still do the functional skills but again do different amounts of training at Sultan and Collingwood.

As regards accommodation at Raleigh it is 8 man rooms with a shower block, but individual cubicles.

As far the medical question goes you would need to contact an ENG1 doctor this link gives you contact details:

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/610455/MCA_Approved_Doctors_in_UK_24_April_2017.pdf

Seamanship and engineering training are very different courses. Seamanship is practical from the outset versus the engineering which has more theory elements as is more technical in the teaching.

What interests you more?

If you have further questions do not hesitate to ask...
Just to clarify would i still have people shouting at me and have to do things like standing in formation or is that just for the RN recruits and more relaxed with the RFA?
 

Canoe

Badgeman
Exercise is great for you - makes you fitter, healthier and happier.

However, it isn't the best way to lose weight - or lose fat, rather! Most people just overcompenstate (I've had a tough gym session - I can have a fry up!) Your body is a wonderfully fuel efficient machine, designed to work hard for long periods, using very little fuel. An hour of being absolutely beasted at close to maximum effort at circuit training/bootcamp style fitness classes only burns about 600 calories... about the same as in a Double Sausage and Egg McMuffin.

Counting calories is in my opinion the only way to go. Work out how many calories you burn in a day, eat less calories than this.

MyFitnessPal is a good app. You enter your height, weight, gender, age and activity level (I'd say sedentary, just to be safe) and it will tell you how many calories a day, roughly, you need to eat to maintain your current weight. You can then set a weight loss goal (0.5 to 1lbs a week is a good, sustainable level) and it well tell you how many calories you can eat a day to achieve this goal. You then use the app to log what you're eating and make sure you're hitting your goal.

Some good advice here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/loseit/wiki/index#wiki_quick_start_guide

As to how long you have... Currently in the application process for seamanship apprentice myself. The information I have recieved from RFA recruitment is that applications for the role close end of May, sift in June (going through all the applications and deciding who to invite for interview), interviews after that for a start date in March 2018. So plenty of time to shift some weight if you're serious!
 

Lifeboat

Midshipman
Hi
I had my joining instructions today
Reading them with regards to the down time clothing it says smart casual.
Would leggings and a top be suitable? What did people take clothing wise for when you're in your mess?
 

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