Question about Tours/Deployment/Missions/whatever name it is

[creddly]

When you're at base and you're told that you're going Subbing (Correct term please?) for say 4 months, does that mean you are literally under the Ocean for 16 weeks? Or does that mean you're just away from the UK for 16 weeks?

What's the longest you can be away for? I've heard 17 months!

Thanks in advance - I'm really giving the Submarines serious thought.

 

[G_Rivet]

When you're at base and you're told that you're going Subbing (Correct term please?) for say 4 months, does that mean you are literally under the Ocean for 16 weeks? Or does that mean you're just away from the UK for 16 weeks?

What's the longest you can be away for? I've heard 17 months!

Thanks in advance - I'm really giving the Submarines serious thought.

Bit out of touch these days Creddly as all our Boats are nuclear, but e.g. when I served in an O Boat in the 60's our longest dived patrol was 83 days. (snorting as & when) that seemed long enough. Then, the Falkland's War came along and this Boat played a major, but generally unsung part in that war. It must've been pretty grim.


http://www.submariners.co.uk/Dits/Articles/onyx2.htm

 

[creddly]

Re: Question about Tours/Deployment/Missions/whatever name i

our longest dived patrol was 83 days. (snorting as & when)

Thanks for the reply G Rivet!

So was that 11 weeks under the Ocean or just the length of your patrol? Did you rise at all or was it literally 83 days under sea?

Oh and what's 'Snorting' ? lol sorry I'm so naive! :razz:

 

[ProudNavyWife(tooBe)]

Re: Question about Tours/Deployment/Missions/whatever name i

This may be wrong but my fella is going on Vangards (well thats his first choice anyway) He was told they go out for 12 weeks, in that 12 weeks he cant contact me AT ALL and the boat will not surface AT ALL.

He can recived 1 or 2 40 word tellegrams from me a week, unlike the S class where I think you can get more contact and if something happends like a death you can possibly get off, on the V class you cant and he was told if I sent a tellygram thing say for example out daughter (god forbid! just trying to think of worse example) is very very ill and going to die he wont be told until he gets back in 12 weeks as he CANT get off and they would delate it from my text encase he become unstable. So if you are in a relationship think about that.

Although on the plus side the V class are more stable 12 week deployments, while I have herd stories of the S classes who go out for 5/6 months stopped off at port in Gibrator and restocked for another few months, which my fella and I decided was worse then no contact.

I think the S classes are being replaced by the Asute class but dont know what they are like, nor do I know what the T class are like.

Again I am not 100% just going by what I have herd from differnet people.

I am sure someone will corrent me if its wrong.

Thanks
Sharon

 

[creddly]

Re: Question about Tours/Deployment/Missions/whatever name i

This may be wrong but my fella is going on Vangards (well thats his first choice anyway) He was told they go out for 12 weeks, in that 12 weeks he cant contact me AT ALL and the boat will not surface AT ALL.

He can recived 1 or 2 40 word tellegrams from me a week, unlike the S class where I think you can get more contact and if something happends like a death you can possibly get off, on the V class you cant and he was told if I sent a tellygram thing say for example out daughter (god forbid! just trying to think of worse example) is very very ill and going to die he wont be told until he gets back in 12 weeks as he CANT get off and they would delate it from my text encase he become unstable. So if you are in a relationship think about that.

Although on the plus side the V class are more stable 12 week deployments, while I have herd stories of the S classes who go out for 5/6 months stopped off at port in Gibrator and restocked for another few months, which my fella and I decided was worse then no contact.

I think the S classes are being replaced by the Asute class but dont know what they are like, nor do I know what the T class are like.

Again I am not 100% just going by what I have herd from differnet people.

I am sure someone will corrent me if its wrong.

Thanks
Sharon

Thanks for the advice NavyWifeToBe!

I haven't definitely decided yet but I'm getting around to it and leaning more towards Submarines.

 

[scabz]

Re: Question about Tours/Deployment/Missions/whatever name i

There are 2 kinds of recruits: those who want to be submariners and those with no ambition...

 

[creddly]

Re: Question about Tours/Deployment/Missions/whatever name i

There are 2 kinds of recruits: those who want to be submariners and those with no ambition...

Do I fall into the 'No Ambition' category? :razz:

 

[G_Rivet]

Re: Question about Tours/Deployment/Missions/whatever name i

our longest dived patrol was 83 days. (snorting as & when)

Thanks for the reply G Rivet!

So was that 11 weeks under the Ocean or just the length of your patrol? Did you rise at all or was it literally 83 days under sea?

Oh and what's 'Snorting' ? lol sorry I'm so naive! :razz:

Yeah? and my dick's a bloater!

 

[G_Rivet]

Re: Question about Tours/Deployment/Missions/whatever name i

This may be wrong but my fella is going on Vangards (well thats his first choice anyway) He was told they go out for 12 weeks, in that 12 weeks he cant contact me AT ALL and the boat will not surface AT ALL.

He can recived 1 or 2 40 word tellegrams from me a week, unlike the S class where I think you can get more contact and if something happends like a death you can possibly get off, on the V class you cant and he was told if I sent a tellygram thing say for example out daughter (god forbid! just trying to think of worse example) is very very ill and going to die he wont be told until he gets back in 12 weeks as he CANT get off and they would delate it from my text encase he become unstable. So if you are in a relationship think about that.

Although on the plus side the V class are more stable 12 week deployments, while I have herd stories of the S classes who go out for 5/6 months stopped off at port in Gibrator and restocked for another few months, which my fella and I decided was worse then no contact.

I think the S classes are being replaced by the Asute class but dont know what they are like, nor do I know what the T class are like.

Again I am not 100% just going by what I have herd from differnet people.

I am sure someone will corrent me if its wrong.

Thanks
Sharon

All this conjecture ain't good for your health love. If, and when, your old man gets to sea, take it from after his first trip.

 

[stirling2]

When you're at base and you're told that you're going Subbing (Correct term please?) for say 4 months, does that mean you are literally under the Ocean for 16 weeks? Or does that mean you're just away from the UK for 16 weeks?

What's the longest you can be away for? I've heard 17 months!

Thanks in advance - I'm really giving the Submarines serious thought.

Bit out of touch these days Creddly as all our Boats are nuclear, but e.g. when I served in an O Boat in the 60's our longest dived patrol was 83 days. (snorting as & when) that seemed long enough. Then, the Falkland's War came along and this Boat played a major, but generally unsung part in that war. It must've been pretty grim.


http://www.submariners.co.uk/Dits/Articles/onyx2.htm

Thanks for the link Rivet as I have never seen this account before.
Stirl

 

[G_Rivet]

When you're at base and you're told that you're going Subbing (Correct term please?) for say 4 months, does that mean you are literally under the Ocean for 16 weeks? Or does that mean you're just away from the UK for 16 weeks?

What's the longest you can be away for? I've heard 17 months!

Thanks in advance - I'm really giving the Submarines serious thought.

Bit out of touch these days Creddly as all our Boats are nuclear, but e.g. when I served in an O Boat in the 60's our longest dived patrol was 83 days. (snorting as & when) that seemed long enough. Then, the Falkland's War came along and this Boat played a major, but generally unsung part in that war. It must've been pretty grim.


http://www.submariners.co.uk/Dits/Articles/onyx2.htm

Thanks for the link Rivet as I have never seen this account before.
Stirl

You're welcome Stirl. Nice arse by the way.

 

[creddly]

Re: Question about Tours/Deployment/Missions/whatever name i

our longest dived patrol was 83 days. (snorting as & when)

Thanks for the reply G Rivet!

So was that 11 weeks under the Ocean or just the length of your patrol? Did you rise at all or was it literally 83 days under sea?

Oh and what's 'Snorting' ? lol sorry I'm so naive! :razz:

Yeah? and my dick's a bloater!

Sorry Rivet, you've lost me now! lol

I've just been reading on the escape training and how if you cock it up, basically you'll have no lungs left! :sad:

 

[creeper]

Re: Question about Tours/Deployment/Missions/whatever name i

Bombers do around 12 weeks dived on a standerd deterent patrol, as for the FamilyGram (or GrumblyGram as they are know onboard), 40 word a week (two of which are your Name and Service number) is all you get except for a birth when you get a BabyGram, the other half soon became good at getting as much info in those 38 words as possible.

 

[creddly]

Re: Question about Tours/Deployment/Missions/whatever name i

Bombers do around 12 weeks dived on a standerd deterent patrol, as for the FamilyGram (or GrumblyGram as they are know onboard), 40 word a week (two of which are your Name and Service number) is all you get except for a birth when you get a BabyGram, the other half soon became good at getting as much info in those 38 words as possible.

Thanks for the response Creeper - So how many times do you do a 12 week dived standard deterrent patrol?

Obviously there are only 4 slots for it in a year as 12 weeks are 3 months.

Well using common sense here, there are 4 Vanguard-class Submarines, so I'm going to assume that each V-Class Submarine takes a single 3 month turn at doing the Deterrent rounds per year?

 

[ProudNavyWife(tooBe)]

Re: Question about Tours/Deployment/Missions/whatever name i

All this conjecture ain't good for your health love. If, and when, your old man gets to sea, take it from after his first trip.

I was not guessing or speculating, simply saying what I had been told by people who had served on boats and what my OH had been told.

I also pointed out that this expression of an opinion was from what I had been told and not what we had experienced, so not trying to say this is true etc.

My OH has been told he can not contact me - is this not true on V class?
He was told I can send upto 2X40 words a week - is this not true on V class?
He was told the depolyments where 12 weeks normally- is this not true on the V class?
He was also warned he cant get off even if something truely awful happned at home - is this not true on the V class?
They said he could possibly get off on the other boats - again is this not true?
He was told this at a talk when they where deciding what type of boat and where port they wanted to put first.

And I know 2 wifes/girlfriend with OHs on the V class who say this is correct.

I knew someone who was a CPO on the swiftsures (now recently retired) and he was out for 6 months went to port stocked up and then went out again for a few more months, he said this was quite common on the S classes. - is this not true?

I was just seeing if this would help this young man decide, as this is what my OH had been told at HMS Raleigh in the submarine service talks.

Just trying to be helpful and not at anypoint did I say my information was from 1st hand experience of service and deployments and I was not specualting from hear say, the information about the V classes was the information from the Navy itself.

Lets be fair there isnt much information around really.

Sharon