QE Class Carriers

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  1. trelawney126

    trelawney126 War Hero

  2. scouse

    scouse New member

    Side lifts !!!!! remember the one on the Happy H. Watch out for the goffers :laughing2:
     
  3. Paddingtonbear

    Paddingtonbear Badgeman

    It is quite amasing what a scale of under taking it really is. It will be a happy day when she arrives in Pompey for the first time.

    Does anyone know when the current first deliveries of F35C are scheduled for? I imagine it is a bit up in the air at the moment but any idea would be interesting.
     
  4. broadside

    broadside War Hero

    Erm, actually it is far from "up in the air" at the moment [​IMG]
     
  5. finknottle

    finknottle Banned

    The Scottish shipyards have an outstanding history of naval shipbiulding, this should be nothing out of the ordinary for them.
     
  6. Seaweed

    Seaweed War Hero Book Reviewer

    I stood by in John Brown's for several weeks watching hundreds of men trying not to finish building Tiger. The level of theft of fittings was dismaying and the final finish, as the wire wool worked its rusty way out of the paint, disgraceful. By the time I arrived she had already had to be rescued by a tug while returning from trials. Finks, get the heather out of your ears and hear what Scotch shipbuilding was really was like before, in spite of vasts gifts of English taxpayers' money, the Communist Trades Unions finally got it all deservedy shut down.
     
  7. trelawney126

    trelawney126 War Hero

    http://www.navy-net.co.uk/fleet-air-arm/60563-f35-bang-out-order.html
     
  8. finknottle

    finknottle Banned

    I must admit there was a fair amount of licentia poetica in my post, Jimmy Reid god bless him.:)
     
  9. howfen_lad

    howfen_lad War Hero

    I didn't realise how big this class of ship was until i saw that pick of the dry dock image, shes a big'un!
     
  10. Flagdeck

    Flagdeck New member

    That naval architects corporate bash to Legoland paid off then !
     
  11. warrenpenalver

    warrenpenalver New member

    I still think it was a mistake to go non-nuclear powered with these carriers.
     
  12. Topstop

    Topstop War Hero

    And have to buy reactors off the Septics or worse the French???????????
     
  13. Joe_Crow

    Joe_Crow New member

    Would they come with watchkeepers? Submarines are that short of nuclear watchkeepers, more bribes are currently being offered.
     
  14. off_les_aura

    off_les_aura War Hero

    I don't think supplying reactors would have been a problem for Rolls-Royce & Associates, although disposal remains a long term issue (Dreadnought is still lingering around). But I think you hit the nail on the head - no manpower.

    As for how big the thing is - I thought by now we'd moved on from the Victorian era attitude of "build it big and impress the hell out of everyone." Without a potent Air Group it's just a big floating White Elephant.
     
  15. The_wheel

    The_wheel Midshipman

    I completely agree, these carriers are supposed to last 40ish years, the price of the fuel to power them by then will be gargantuan
     
  16. warrenpenalver

    warrenpenalver New member

    true but in terms of the carriers budget, and through life costs, nuclear watchkeepers are a tiny insignificant proportion of through life costs, even if we had to bribe them with silly wages.

    its not just the cost of fuel. Think about its endurance, speed, range etc. A nuclear powerplant solves many of them both in terms of propulsion as well as powering ships systems. Could you imagine having to do a RAS in that massive carrier for fuel?? would be impractical and would mean we are dependant on either continually topping up tanks with regular RASing or dependant on having to fuel up regularly on deployment at prices we cant control. Fuel is a major consideration in planning on an FF/DD and the current carriers let alone something as big as the QE. IMO going non-nuclear is a compromise too far.
     
  17. Paddingtonbear

    Paddingtonbear Badgeman

    The jets and helos still require fuel, and the ship will need dry stores. As soon as you need to RAS you might as well go for diesel engines.

    Also the Yanks have had major issues as to where their nuke carriers can go. Very few ports allow them in.

    Think of the lost cocktail opportunitites.
     
  18. The_wheel

    The_wheel Midshipman

    would it ever be possible during a refit to add a few reactors? or would that require a completely new rebuild?
     
  19. warrenpenalver

    warrenpenalver New member

    im sure it would be physically possible but cost effective to change the design it probably is not.
     
  20. flymo

    flymo War Hero

    There going to be painted white too? Jeezz

    Sorry, flippant mode <ON>
     

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