potnoodle

Midshipman
so i failed my psychometric test today because of the maths part,i think i did ok on the rest of the sections, the officer told me that i was literally 6 marks off, and i've been booked to resit it for the 26th march.
i'm going through the numeracy practise test online and part of my problem is i'm getting the answers wrong because i dont know how to solve the actual question so i have no clue on how to correct it. I've looked online for solutions but cant find anything, so if anybody could explain to me how to actually solve these questions without just giving me the answer that would be really appreciated. it doesn't matter how many times i go over the test, i will remember the correct answer but will have no idea how to actually work it out when it comes to the real test when the answer if different.
question 1.
The mat and floor are similar shapes. How many mats would be needed to cover the floor? View attachment 49332

question 2.
What ONE number can replace BOTH question marks?
1/? = ?/36

question 3.
3b + 7c = 7c +
therefore
equals?

question 4.
23 x 19 = 437

24 x 19 = 437 + X

Therefore X equals?

question 5.
Which of these boxes will hold the largest number of 1cm cubes?
  1. Sides 6cm, 4cm, 2cm
  2. Sides 6cm, 4cm, 4cm
  3. Sides 8cm, 4cm, 2cm
  4. Sides 10cm, 4cm, 2cm
question 6.
If A = 3e and B = 3e, then which of the following does B equal?
  1. 6a
  2. a/3b
  3. A
  4. None of these
question 7.
x = (multiples of 6, from 6 to 36)
y = (multiples of 8, from 8 to 32)
The shaded area contains common multiples of 6 and 8. Which number belongs in this area?

  1. 12
  2. 18
  3. 22
  4. None of these
question 8.
a and b are numbers. How many times greater than the average of ½ a and ½ b is the average of 4a and 4b?
  1. 4
  2. 1/2
  3. 8
  4. None of these
question 9.
Twenty seven tiles each measuring 25cm by 25cm fit along one edge of a room exactly. What is the length of the room?
  1. 6m
  2. 6.75m
  3. 7.25m
  4. 7.5m
i know this a lot of question (im terrible at maths as you can see XD) but if anyone could show me how to actually work the questions out to get the answer it would mean a lot. thank youuu.
 

Taztiff

War Hero
Took me about 2 minutes to do these - but I always was able to 'visualise' these types of question.
A lot of it is about visualising the problem as opposed to doing 'real' maths.
If no one has given a full answer by lunchtime I may have time to write out my thought processes for you - unfortunately work is getting in the way!!
 

Drakey

War Hero
Don't think i can be bothered to tell you how to work out all of the questions. However, Q1.

How many times does 8x2 (16) go into 12x16 (192) = 12
 
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Wiggy99

Newbie
Have you had a look at the 'How2become' website? - you'll find great information on there, as well as books you can buy that contain various questions that are section specific you can complete. This is great to practice and familiarize yourself with all scenarios that could come up. I'd also suggest using Youtube and google for tutorials on how to work out certain equations and do a fair few of them to gain confidence. There are lots of resources out there that will explain ways to find the answers.

Fail to prepare and all that jazz..

But its better to learn HOW to work out said question, not just remember the answer as its very likely they will change.

Good Luck & I hope it works out.
 
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Taztiff

War Hero
Don't think i can be bothered to tell you how to work out all of the questions. However, Q1.

How many times does 8x2 (16) go into 12x16 (192) = 12 SIMPLES
Or divide both sides by 2 to give 8x1 into 12x8 then divide again by 8 to leave 12
 

WreckerL

War Hero
Super Moderator
Or divide both sides by 2 to give 8x1 into 12x8 then divide again by 8 to leave 12
Drakey had the easier way, mainly because that's how I worked it out :)

I'll do question 5, the answer is number 2 (6 x 4 x 4 = 96) as it's a volume question.
 
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MAXtmpu

Midshipman
The trick to these questions is spotting that there is usually (but not always) a "quick" way of getting an answer. I will try to not spoon-feed you answers - I'll share some basic principles behind getting the answers so that you can learn the solutions in your own time, which is altogether more valuable to you.

1: Work out the area of the small shape and large shape. Then, divide the area of the large shape by the small shape.
2: Rearrange the fraction. Multiplying both sides by 36 shows that: 36/? = ?. Multiply both sides by the question mark so that 36 = ?x? - what number multiplies by itself to give you 36?
3: Get all letters onto the same side of the = sign. Subtract 7c from both sides - whats left?
4: If 23x19 is 437, then 24x19 must be equal to 23x19 plus an extra 19. X must therefore be...?
5: To work out a volume, multiply all side lengths by each other (e.g. 6x4x2 = 48 cubic centimeters). Which one of the four has the largest volume?
6: A and B are equal to the same thing, 3e, so A and B must be equal to each other. The best way to go about this is to get e on its own in both equations - i.e. e = A/3, e = B/3, therefore A/3 = B/3 so A = B.
7: This is a strange way of asking what are the common multiples of 6 and 8 between 6 and 32. A common multiple of two numbers is one that is divisible by both of those numbers into a whole number (no decimals). Look at the answers available in the multiple-choice section: do any of those divide by both 6 and 8? Perhaps none of them do.
8: To find the average (mean) of two numbers, add them together and divide by 2. You want to divide the average of 4a and 4b by the average of (a/2)+(b/2). That will give you the answer.
9: Trick question this (slightly) - it prompts you to think about areas, but you only need to consider the length of one side. 27 tiles line an edge perfectly with each tile's edge being 25cm. What is 25cm x 27? Check your units! The answer is in metres, and there are 100cm to a meter.

Hope this helps. Best of luck with the resit.
 

Taztiff

War Hero
The trick to these questions is spotting that there is usually (but not always) a "quick" way of getting an answer. I will try to not spoon-feed you answers - I'll share some basic principles behind getting the answers so that you can learn the solutions in your own time, which is altogether more valuable to you.

1: Work out the area of the small shape and large shape. Then, divide the area of the large shape by the small shape.
2: Rearrange the fraction. Multiplying both sides by 36 shows that: 36/? = ?. Multiply both sides by the question mark so that 36 = ?x? - what number multiplies by itself to give you 36?
3: Get all letters onto the same side of the = sign. Subtract 7c from both sides - whats left?
4: If 23x19 is 437, then 24x19 must be equal to 23x19 plus an extra 19. X must therefore be...?
5: To work out a volume, multiply all side lengths by each other (e.g. 6x4x2 = 48 cubic centimeters). Which one of the four has the largest volume?
6: A and B are equal to the same thing, 3e, so A and B must be equal to each other. The best way to go about this is to get e on its own in both equations - i.e. e = A/3, e = B/3, therefore A/3 = B/3 so A = B.
7: This is a strange way of asking what are the common multiples of 6 and 8 between 6 and 32. A common multiple of two numbers is one that is divisible by both of those numbers into a whole number (no decimals). Look at the answers available in the multiple-choice section: do any of those divide by both 6 and 8? Perhaps none of them do.
8: To find the average (mean) of two numbers, add them together and divide by 2. You want to divide the average of 4a and 4b by the average of (a/2)+(b/2). That will give you the answer.
9: Trick question this (slightly) - it prompts you to think about areas, but you only need to consider the length of one side. 27 tiles line an edge perfectly with each tile's edge being 25cm. What is 25cm x 27? Check your units! The answer is in metres, and there are 100cm to a meter.

Hope this helps. Best of luck with the resit.
Well, that's saved me writing all that out over lunchtime!!
As @MAXtmpu implies, look to simplify the question. There is a lot of bumff in there which serves to hide the real question. Example, question 4: If 23 x 19 = 437, then 24 x 19 = 437 + X Forget the actual numbers and calculation, who knows the 23 (or 19) times table! Look for the difference in the equation.
 

potnoodle

Midshipman
Took me about 2 minutes to do these - but I always was able to 'visualise' these types of question.
A lot of it is about visualising the problem as opposed to doing 'real' maths.
If no one has given a full answer by lunchtime I may have time to write out my thought processes for you - unfortunately work is getting in the way!!
yeah thats what i would love to be able to do, maths has never been a strong point for me lol im still resitting gcse maths and its been 4 years haha, my issue is that i can never understand what the question is asking me to do to work out the answer. its like trying to read a language ive never learnt before in my head eek haha but thank you :)
 

potnoodle

Midshipman
Have you had a look at the 'How2become' website? - you'll find great information on there, as well as books you can buy that contain various questions that are section specific you can complete. This is great to practice and familiarize yourself with all scenarios that could come up. I'd also suggest using Youtube and google for tutorials on how to work out certain equations and do a fair few of them to gain confidence. There are lots of resources out there that will explain ways to find the answers.

Fail to prepare and all that jazz..

But its better to learn HOW to work out said question, not just remember the answer as its very likely they will change.

Good Luck & I hope it works out.
i haven't looked at the How2become website but i do have books and i have used youtube and google before but my problem was because i cant recognise what the question is asking me to do i didn't know what to put into the internet to get the right method, but yeah thank you for your help i shall take a look at the website :)
 

potnoodle

Midshipman
If you really can't do ANY of them. WTF did you learn at school.
like honestly literally nothing in maths. when i say i'm bad i mean i'm baddddd. weirdly i'm good with every other subject. got B's in pretty much everything but scored an E in maths over and over again. its always the one that catches me out, just like it did yesterday rip.
 

potnoodle

Midshipman
The trick to these questions is spotting that there is usually (but not always) a "quick" way of getting an answer. I will try to not spoon-feed you answers - I'll share some basic principles behind getting the answers so that you can learn the solutions in your own time, which is altogether more valuable to you.

1: Work out the area of the small shape and large shape. Then, divide the area of the large shape by the small shape.
2: Rearrange the fraction. Multiplying both sides by 36 shows that: 36/? = ?. Multiply both sides by the question mark so that 36 = ?x? - what number multiplies by itself to give you 36?
3: Get all letters onto the same side of the = sign. Subtract 7c from both sides - whats left?
4: If 23x19 is 437, then 24x19 must be equal to 23x19 plus an extra 19. X must therefore be...?
5: To work out a volume, multiply all side lengths by each other (e.g. 6x4x2 = 48 cubic centimeters). Which one of the four has the largest volume?
6: A and B are equal to the same thing, 3e, so A and B must be equal to each other. The best way to go about this is to get e on its own in both equations - i.e. e = A/3, e = B/3, therefore A/3 = B/3 so A = B.
7: This is a strange way of asking what are the common multiples of 6 and 8 between 6 and 32. A common multiple of two numbers is one that is divisible by both of those numbers into a whole number (no decimals). Look at the answers available in the multiple-choice section: do any of those divide by both 6 and 8? Perhaps none of them do.
8: To find the average (mean) of two numbers, add them together and divide by 2. You want to divide the average of 4a and 4b by the average of (a/2)+(b/2). That will give you the answer.
9: Trick question this (slightly) - it prompts you to think about areas, but you only need to consider the length of one side. 27 tiles line an edge perfectly with each tile's edge being 25cm. What is 25cm x 27? Check your units! The answer is in metres, and there are 100cm to a meter.

Hope this helps. Best of luck with the resit.
this is exactly what i was looking for, thank you so much
 

Drakey

War Hero
like honestly literally nothing in maths. when i say i'm bad i mean i'm baddddd. weirdly i'm good with every other subject. got B's in pretty much everything but scored an E in maths over and over again. its always the one that catches me out, just like it did yesterday rip.
What job are you applying for.
 

potnoodle

Midshipman
Oh Dear - the branch that is based on...........................................maths and counting :(
i was told yesterday its only basic because even i had my own doubts with it due to the maths, i dont really know how to explain this but i use maths all the time in real life (and as part of my college course) and i'm completely fine with it.. i know what i'm doing and all that, its just when it comes to exams i struggle mainly because of the time pressure or because of how the question is worded. i cant recognise methods to the questions. however when i use maths for real life i know what i'm doing.
that is terribly explained i know haha.
i do have a friend who chose to do logistics for supply chain and he struggled terribly at maths as well but he told me that its nothing like the questions you have to answer in the psychometric test hahaha. not too sure whether to believe that or not lmao. but i guess we will see.
 

MAXtmpu

Midshipman
i was told yesterday its only basic because even i had my own doubts with it due to the maths, i dont really know how to explain this but i use maths all the time in real life (and as part of my college course) and i'm completely fine with it.. i know what i'm doing and all that, its just when it comes to exams i struggle mainly because of the time pressure or because of how the question is worded. i cant recognise methods to the questions. however when i use maths for real life i know what i'm doing.
that is terribly explained i know haha.
i do have a friend who chose to do logistics for supply chain and he struggled terribly at maths as well but he told me that its nothing like the questions you have to answer in the psychometric test hahaha. not too sure whether to believe that or not lmao. but i guess we will see.
Just do your best with the recruitment test and focus on the maths if its a weakness for you. You will get better over time and its not something you "can-or-cant do". I got a B in GCSE maths, ended up with an A* in it at A level and got a Physics degree after that - so nothing is impossible. Apply yourself, have faith in your hard work, and you'll get through the RT.
 
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