Pride of the fleet, hacked apart in a Turkish scrapyard

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  1. Pride of the fleet, hacked apart in a Turkish scrapyard: HMS Ark Royal cuts a sorry sight as it's reduced to tin cans and razor blades

    She once ruled the waves. Now the 22,000-ton HMS Ark Royal is being ripped apart in a Turkish scrapyard, another victim of British defence cuts.
    After a quarter of a century of service, Ark Royal – the fifth vessel to bear a name that dates back to victory over the Spanish Armada – will shortly be reduced to tin cans and razor blades.

    HMS Ark Royal: British Navy aircraft carrier smashed in Turkish scrapyard | Mail Online
    (Source: Daily Mail)
  2. I wonder if they have found any porny mags stashed behind the heads pipe work?

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  3. Shame she didn't goto a British breakers. At least the job market might have benefited.

    Still, it's a shock to see her like that.
  4. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    Albeit 33 years old, on the face of it, it does seem odd that it was scrapped before there was a viable replacement, but then again we're talking about a government that scrapped the Harrier a decade too soon to "save money".

    By contrast the USS Enterprise, commissioned in 1958 is just about to be paid off and the Harrier variants still fly operationally with several Navies.
  5. Problem is, there are very few breakers yards in the UK who are capable of scrapping such a large vessel, and the difference in what the Turkish yard can afford to pay (even after the costs of towage to Turkey) compared to a Brit yard means it that the disposal authority have no choice under current Govt Dept rules.
  6. Oh I know. Many of my family are (and were) Lairds workers so its a regular discussion. Was merely a observation. Although a more regular argument is between the family old n bold and the younger relatives over "How does it feel to be building ferries while we worked on Aircraft Carriers and Battleships". I like to hide in the corner and watch with amusement.

    Does make you wonder if its time for both a rules review and potentially a look at whether the industry can be 'revitalised'. After all, liberty ships of almost similar size are being seen to in the UK.

    Fair points however P_O.

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  7. Grim, I think there are some plans to build a sustainable eco-friendly ship breaking industry in the UK again, one of the 22s (I forget which) was only offered to UK based businesses for breaking while the other 3 all headed off to Turkey. I'm also led to believe that this Turkish yard has done a fair bit of business with ex-RN ships of late, and they always scrap it without fuss (ie no bad press for the MoD!)
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  8. The Turks certainly seem to be doing the job well, however I reckon a British yard could have done it better and more cost effective the workforce were recruited from redundant shipyard workers who are now on benefits.
  9. HMS Intrepid was scrapped at the breakers yard in Liverpool TDS, along with others and RFAs Grey Rover and Percivale

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  10. Purple_twiglet

    Purple_twiglet War Hero Moderator

    Slim - how could we have done it more cheaply when we have minimum wage to pay? Any UK yard could have competed for the tender - the fact that they didnt win it tells you that the UK struggles to compete. Look at the Hartlepool ghost ship saga and you'll also see how much NIMBYISM there is in the UK now for ship breaking. Its a dead industry here.
  11. The minimum wage is a good thing and is here to stay!!! End of . The problem is more deep rooted In addition to steel and other useful materials, ships (particularly older vessels) can contain many substances that are banned or considered dangerous in developed countries.[citation needed] Asbestos[1] and polychlorinated biphenyls (PCBs) are typical examples. Asbestos was used heavily in ship construction until it was finally banned in most of the developed world in the mid-1980s. Currently, the costs associated with removing asbestos, along with the potentially expensive insurance and health risks, have meant that ship breaking in most developed countries is no longer economically viable. Removing the metal for scrap can potentially cost more than the value of the scrap metal itself. In the developing world, however, shipyards can operate without the risk of personal injury lawsuits or workers' health claims, meaning many of these shipyards may operate with high health risks. Protective equipment is sometimes absent or inadequate. Dangerous vapors and fumes from burning materials can be inhaled, and dusty asbestos-laden areas are commonplace. . In recent years, ship breaking has become an issue of environmental concern beyond the health of the yard workers. Many ship breaking yards operate in developing nations with lax or no environmental law, enabling large quantities of highly toxic materials to escape into the general environment and causing serious health problems among ship breakers, Quote!!!!!!
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