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OK this is a weird one, but after a night of teaching the brats, we tend to have some pretty random conversations.

Just wondering what would we/could we/should we do if a cadet 16+ came to us and said I'm pregnant and I'm keeping the baby. Do they carry on regardless in the cadets till it's born? Would they politely be asked to leave? Do they issue a cadets pregnancies uniform?

I've know plenty of Adult helpers to be pregnant and they abandon the uniform and tend to be put in the admin office.

Sorry I do really need to get out more; but in this day and age I'm sure it's only a matter of time before such a situation comes up.



War Hero
I think the cadet in question would have to re-evaluate her priorities.

This would probably mean leaving cadets. I have known of 1 case of this happening.
but why should she leave, she's over 16 so perfectly legal, nothing to stop her become petty officer cadet Mrs Smith.

Having become an adult helper, after becoming a single mum I know how important it is to have something even if it's just once a month were you can be someone other than mum. So IMO I think the cadet should be encouraged to stay
I can see all your points, but if like me ( and god I'm going to sound sad) it's my only night out a week. Much better to be doing somthing for the comunity than pishing your money up a wall.

I amit my attendance has not been brilliant due to my child, and I have felt pressure that I'm not for the corp enough because of this.


War Hero
The correct answer is that you have to help her apply for her free council flat, countersign her benefits claims and ensure there are crèche facilities available at the unit. :lol:

Seriously though, it’s a tough call and I suspect it will come down to the character of the particular Cadet. If she is "not bothered" then no problem, you let her go. However if she really wants to make a go of it, then OK – fine, but you must draw the line and prevent her from bringing the sprog along to unit activities. I'm serious. It will set the wrong tone and be seen as condoning her "activities" and is likely to lead to complaints from other parents. Then there is the whole H & S minefield to consider.

I have been unfortunate enough to be office manager where pregnant Wrens returned from maternity leave and kept on bringing their sprog into the office in three different postings. Now it's nice once or twice (at the start) but eventually you begin to realise that everyone ends up sitting around and cooing at it and all the while it never stops squawking or leaking. Even more annoyingly when you subtly suggest that there is the matter of work to be getting on with - you get daggers and moods. Beautiful!! :roll:
However if she really wants to make a go of it, then OK – fine, but you must draw the line and prevent her from bringing the sprog along to unit activities. I'm serious. It will set the wrong tone and be seen as condoning her "activities"

So as a single mother should I not bring my child to unit activites ether as it might encorage the girls to go out and get pregnant or because I'm older doesn't it matter?!


War Hero
Because you are not a cadet yourself it's somewhat different.

But a 16 year old cadet getting pregnant does not set a good example for other cadets, and the SCC allowing such a cadet to continue does not promote a particularly good image of the Corps.
I see your point, but this thread is going very much the way it did when we discussed it down the pub, I said at the end of the day like me, she has done nothing illegal ( she seems to have a life of her own I don't actually know of a cadet in this situation) and is perfectly entitled to carry on her daily life, and as I also said whats to stop her become MRS PO cadet.

It's just one of the many dilemmas we have discussed and found no really answer or training for, in the days of equal ops and being sued at the drop of a hat we said really more training should be given.

What if we have a cadet who's married or in a civil patnership?

For example we have no black or Asian children or helpers at our unit, should we be going out in to the community and finding more, and if necessary pay at black/Asian helper?

SHould if a muslin came and joined our unit change our friday met night to accommodate the fact that is their pray day? What should we do about prays in general, if we did have one?

Do we need to get out more and spend less of our time discussing cadets?

I know alot of these are pretty far fetched situations but like I said you never know


War Hero
I see what you mean about a "Mrs PO Cadet" but I would imagine a cadet who was mature enough to get married would probably decide to move on from cadets. (I don't mean to imply that other PO cadets are immature - very far from it - but they have different priorities.)

As for prayers, my unit's chaplain generally does prayers on major events eg the RNI or prizegiving, and at UMC meetings too (in fact we have 2 chaplains and a local church has "adopted" the unit - it's where we go on Remembrance Day/Traf Day etc). The population of Asians in my local area is relatively low so I wouldn't know what impact they would have on a unit. I see no reason to go out of our way to recruit ethnic minorities though.
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