Pre-Hospital Opportunities in Royal Navy

Firstly, apologies if this is posted in the wrong place.

I am currently in the process of applying to the Royal Navy for the role of Medical Officer, and feel I have a rough idea of how things work etc.

I was wondering if any current Medical Officers knew if there are any opportunities for getting involved in the Pre-Hospital/Emergency Care side of things at a later point in the career? Obviously all care given onboard a ship is technically pre-Hospital Care, but I was wondering if there were opportunities for Anaesthetists etc.

Thanks in advance.
 
Because I have a weird and savant like ability to navigate DII, I've found the latest Recruitment Guide to Specialty Training, 2016.

It lists PHEM (which I what I think you are referring to) as a specialty for ST3+, but at the moment the RN has 0 (zero) openings. I would note, however, many of my Medical Officer friends have not necessarily been limited by what the "book" says. However, against that, you will be trained for the needs of the RN first, and your preferences second. If they align, great, if they don't, tough. I know a MO who was awarded an MBE for their efforts on Op HERRICK, and then denied their choice of specialty training.

In short, yes, you probably could do PHEM, but don't join the Armed Forces as your only option for it.
 
Alfred, thank you very much!

That is what I am referring to, it's shame there don't seem to be options for it right at the moment. However, fingers crossed that the service needs change over the next few years. Also, glad to hear that your colleagues have not been necessarily be limited.

It does seem like there should still be opportunities, particularly onboard the larger ships and supporting any teams based on land (As a matter of interest, did the RN have much of a presence on land in Afghanistan etc? - Please excuse my ignorance).

I was told that secondments are allowed still, so I would probably aim to go into Anaesthetics or Emergency Medicine for my Registrar training, strive for a secondment to Air Ambulance/HEMS somewhere, and then hope the Navy will want to keep me on in a PHEM role.
 
Ive reached the limit of my knowledge so I can't offer much more.

There is a presence in Afghanistan, however there is no MERT any more.

Good luck in your endeavours.
 

Jack Sparrow

Lantern Swinger
Alfred, thank you very much!

That is what I am referring to, it's shame there don't seem to be options for it right at the moment. However, fingers crossed that the service needs change over the next few years. Also, glad to hear that your colleagues have not been necessarily be limited.

It does seem like there should still be opportunities, particularly onboard the larger ships and supporting any teams based on land (As a matter of interest, did the RN have much of a presence on land in Afghanistan etc? - Please excuse my ignorance).

I was told that secondments are allowed still, so I would probably aim to go into Anaesthetics or Emergency Medicine for my Registrar training, strive for a secondment to Air Ambulance/HEMS somewhere, and then hope the Navy will want to keep me on in a PHEM role.
At times the RN personnel in Afghanistan outnumbered the Army! This includes ships on station, Fleet Air Arm pilots and the Airy Fairies that go with them, and of course the Loyal Machines.
 

MSBravo

Midshipman
Alfred, thank you very much!

That is what I am referring to, it's shame there don't seem to be options for it right at the moment. However, fingers crossed that the service needs change over the next few years. Also, glad to hear that your colleagues have not been necessarily be limited.

It does seem like there should still be opportunities, particularly onboard the larger ships and supporting any teams based on land (As a matter of interest, did the RN have much of a presence on land in Afghanistan etc? - Please excuse my ignorance).

I was told that secondments are allowed still, so I would probably aim to go into Anaesthetics or Emergency Medicine for my Registrar training, strive for a secondment to Air Ambulance/HEMS somewhere, and then hope the Navy will want to keep me on in a PHEM role.

Hello. I can answer this for you, and will be posting a detailed thread for MO applicants soon.

You must remember that PHEM is a sub-speciality associated with anaesthetics/EM, and it adds a year to your training. It isn't possible to be a consultant in PHEM alone: you must dual-qualify with either EM or anaesthetics. The day job will be EM or anaesthetics, with PHEM taking up a few clinical sessions. Even the guys at London HEMS aren't exclusively PHEM doctors - they are EM or anaesthetic doctors first, who do PHEM on the side.

After your 3 years as a general duties are up, you then specialise. Your speciality is decided with your careers manager, but the Service's needs come first - although a mutually beneficial agreement is normally sought. For EM and anaesthetics, you will be sent through the Acute Common Care Stem (ACCS) training pathway.

The specialities that are mainly being recruited for at the moment are GP, EM and anaesthetics. There may be chances to undertake training in Psychiatry, acute medicine, surgery, radiology, opthalmology, etc. - but this cannot be guaranteed.

The PONG specialities (paeds, obstetrics, neonatology and gynaecology) are not required by the service and thus unavailable. Most speciality care is now provided by RNR doctors, so cardiology/neurology/etc. are not routinely available.

In short: you will be able do train as an anaesthetist in the Royal Navy, and will almost certainly be able to add PHEM to your repertoire!

Best of luck.
 

Ninja_Stoker

War Hero
Moderator
Hang around long enough and someone half decent will always turn up!
True, true :)

Medical recruiting is a specialist area due to the branch specific technicalities already highlighted on this thread.

In the event the excellent pointers already posted on this thread leave the OP wanting to find out more, give the specialist recruiters a call: 02392 727096. They may even be able to offer an all expenses acquaint visit.

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