Polling Day, (2 May)

#1
For local candidates they must be quite proud of the non effort they have put in for election/re-election.

I have had 1 (one) geriatric 80 year old Independent knock on my door. The rest have had there lackeys post leaflets.

Nice effort. You will excuse me if I show an equal amount of interest in your seat in council!!!

I'm night shift tonight so I will endeavour to sleep through the nonsense!!!:notworthy::sleepy1:
 
#2
Likewise! Candidates for the local election happen to be the same bunch that are presently sat polishing seats in the council chamber. In the absence of anyone who actually has the nounce to be worth voting for I will not be exercising my right!
 
#3
Hate to say it chaps, but there is a difference between exercising your right to vote and having nothing to vote for.

Go the polling station and spoil your ballot paper. The more people we have doing that, the more they will have to sit up and take notice (although the pessimist in me thinks that will only change the spin and not the message).

You have the right. Use it!
 
#4
Hate to say it chaps, but there is a difference between exercising your right to vote and having nothing to vote for.

Go the polling station and spoil your ballot paper. The more people we have doing that, the more they will have to sit up and take notice (although the pessimist in me thinks that will only change the spin and not the message).

You have the right. Use it!
I hear what you say ... but will spoiling the paper actually make a difference???? Perhaps if they had a separate box marked "none of the above" it would make it a bit more obvious.

At the local Parish Council elections 3 people stood down (one after 34 years as a councillor) and 3 were elected unopposed ... funny I dont seem to remember being asked to vote and they have now announced that they (Parish Council) will be co-opting three people ... working on your premise above ... the fact that nobody actually nominated themselves might indicate that the village as a whole thought that they were all a waste of fresh victuals. You can bet your life that those co-opted members will be family friends etc of those duly elected! The message certainly isn't getting through! Mind they wont be asking me as my political views are slightly right wing of Attilla the Hun!
 
#5
Is it not the case at by-elections that any non-votes automatically go to the cretins in power, as in a General election ?
16 candidates, no doubt all blowing their own tune in our area but worth a shot.All our votes count. At least it's a way of exercising your democratic rights, as far as they ever change anything.

Totally understand the inertia but changed my mind the past year or so.Mate of mine helped oversee the first elections in Iraq in 2004 (think that was the year), suicide bombers being wrestled to the ground by police etc...... we have it handed to us on a plate unlike some places. It's only a tick of a box.
 
#6
Only one prospective councillor out of a possible four has thought it worth while canvassing my vote so it seems apathy has now gone from the electorate to the candidacy.
 
#7
Only one prospective councillor out of a possible four has thought it worth while canvassing my vote so it seems apathy has now gone from the electorate to the candidacy.
Same where I live and he's the only local one (Mebyon Kernow party) all the others live outside my town, actually delivered his bumf in a hand written envelope, addressed to me, not the householder as I'd expect, and delivered by himself.

As he was the only who could be bothered, he got my vote (I postal vote), wifey and son did the same when they got their individually addressed letters.
 
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guestm

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#8
Not one of our candidates has bothered their arse to even put a leaflet through our door. Mates and family in the area say the same. Not impressed.
 
#11
I live in quite a rural area, so never expected the candidates to actually knock on the door. I have had leaflets from all of the candidates put through the door by one of there team though. I will be exercising my right after work, my one vote may be the one that makes a change..............
 
#12
Same as the rest ... none of the local ward prospective councillors have bothered putting any bumff through the door nor has anyone been door knocking ... Interestingly our MP is Conservative yet the Council is (and has been for years) Lib Dem controlled! Either way ... judging by their lack of transparency over the PFI contract which has come to light on another thread ... "None of the Above" is the way I shall be voting! Good idea Dredd!
 

sgtpepperband

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#13
...my one vote may be the one that makes a change...
And that is the point that the abstainers fail to grasp. A spoiled vote (i.e. ticking all boxes or adding "None of the above..." at the bottom) has to be counted, but not attending the Polling Station is effectively giving your vote to another party, one which might - in the long-term - have a drastic effect on the local community as a whole. And sadly their most vocal critics will often be the very same people who didn't vote because they "couldn't be bothered..." :roll: :oops:
 

sgtpepperband

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#14
Further to my previous, here's someting I read on a friend's blog this morning (apologies for the lack of re-formatting), which sums up exactly why it is importance to cast your vote (or using it wisely):

You can choose.






IN China,
1.3billion people can vote so long as it's for a Communist.

In
Russia, 141.9million people can vote for whoever they like as long as Vladimir
Putin agrees with them
.

In Saudi Arabia, about 12million women can't
vote for another three years
unless the king changes his mind and they
object to him appointing
or unappointing them from his council
at whim.

In all 88.7% of the world's
population doesn't have the right to vote
for whoever they want without
being bullied, killed, coerced or made somehow illegal.

That's 6.1billion
people out of a total of 6.9billion on the planet who don't get the say we all
take for granted, sitting here reading whatever we like on the internet on
whizzy computers.

In the country I live in there are 47million
people registered to vote in local elections
, there are local elections
being held RIGHT NOW, and only
30 to 50% of them will bother to do so
.

That's around 32million to
24million people not helping to decide which unqualified tosspots will be
deciding on digging up their street, imposing one-way systems, collecting their
rubbish, running their swimming pool, taxing their house, maintaining the street
lights, running libraries and deciding how cheap their state-provided carers
should be and how many minutes is enough to get someone out of bed, wash them,
feed them, and wipe their bum.

Yet those 32million to 24million people
aren't disbarred from using any of those services or complaining if they think
they're rubbish. And lots of people tend to think that if someone is issuing
taxes, then you get to have a say in how they spend it.

The trouble is
that democracy, once it's won, is taken for granted and local democracy is just
painfully dull. I spent five years covering everything from parish council
planning committees discussing the location of someone's shed on a wet Wednesday
night all the way up to the heady heights of a city's budget being thrashed out
by swivel-eyed lunatics with an eye on Westminster.

All of it was
important to someone and none of it was attended by more than a handful of
locals. We all just presume that as long as the lights come on and there's
potholes for us to moan about that things are rumbling on much as they always
have.

Nothing seems to change, so what's the point in voting? Well
there's one thing that's changing, which is that fewer and fewer people can
summon up the enthusiasm to put a 'X' in a box.

In
1983 local election turnout was 44%
. In 1993 it was 37%, and in 2003 it was
35%. Today's figures will be boosted by the fact it's sunny but if they're
significantly greater than ten years ago I'll be very surprised.

And why?
It's not as though what local councils do isn't important, and arguably might
have a greater immediate effect on voters' lives than the House of
Commons.

It's local councils that, under
current welfare reforms, are going to be providing social support to the sick
and disabled
. They fund fire brigades, social workers, school meals, buses,
housing benefit, play areas and provide more than a million jobs.

This is
crucial stuff, but less and less of us can be bothered to get off our backsides.
Even when you don't need to get off your backside, even when the council will
send you a freepost letter you just sign and send back for FREE.

In Iraq
three years ago 62% of voters
turned out even though 38 people were blown up in bomb attacks by people who'd
rather they didn't.


In Romania and Bulgaria,
countries which 20 years ago were blinking at democracy like it might bark at
them, voter turnout is around 80%.

Yet here we can't be bothered even
though people like my grandad towed a gun through France and Belgium, saw his
best mate blown to pieces and returned home a changed and unhappy man in order
to protect our right to have a say. We can't be bothered even though Emily Davison threw
herself under a horse so half of us could do what she couldn't.

Perhaps
it's because all that seems like such a long way away - a different country,
almost. But it's recent enough if you stop and think. My grandmother was born in
1916, when no woman was allowed to vote. My mother was only allowed to vote when
she was 21, despite having been a taxpayer since she was 16.

I spent my
whole childhood waiting impatiently until I was 18 - not just because it made me
an adult, but because I was raised to think putting an X in a box was one of the
finest things you could ever do.

Voting is not just your right - it is a
privilege and what's more a duty. You owe it to my gran and grandad, as well as
your own, and you owe it to your children to take them to the polling booth with
you and tell them they're as lucky as hell to have the luxury of being bored to
tears by all of this.

Perhaps your X won't change which little Hitler is
in charge of your library. Perhaps it won't stop it being shut down and perhaps
the local swimming pool will still be infested with disease and flies and morons
who splash around too much.

More than likely, you won't be voting for
someone you like as much as you'll be voting for someone who seems the least
idiotic option.

But not putting your X in a box will change a lot,
and change it for the worse. The idiotic options will be picked by someone else,
there'll be no-one to fight for granny's meals-on-wheels when she needs it, and
your children will grow up thinking it doesn't matter.

If that happens,
we will suddenly be a lot closer to that different country where voting was
something people fought each other over.

You can vote red, blue, yellow,
UKIP, racist, fringe, green, single issue or Monster Raving Loony. You can set
up your own party, and you can do it all without being blown up, without being
hunted down afterwards, and despite your reproductive system. You are luckier
than almost 90% of the planet.

I don't care which idiot you vote for; but
please, just vote.




What would she say?​
 
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guestm

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#19
88.7% of the world can't vote for fear of bullying etc. What a load of poo. Some fantasy figures being banded around there Joss.
I only got about two paragraphs in before it reminded me of some Facebook hoop so I couldn't put myself through the rest of it.

Besides, It's a person's right not to vote if they don't want to. It might even be for the best if some of the apathetic chimps don't.
 
#20
I only got about two paragraphs in before it reminded me of some Facebook hoop so I couldn't put myself through the rest of it.

Besides, It's a person's right not to vote if they don't want to. It might even be for the best if some of the apathetic chimps don't.
As it stands at present it is, which is all well and goods as long as the non voting baboons don't whine about the outcome.
 

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