Political Bollocks

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and she's off

Date set for Sturgeon's Indyref2 'routemap'

NICOLA Sturgeon is to set out her 'routemap' to a second independence referendum next week.

www.heraldscotland.com

 

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Did labour take us under full control of the ECHR at the same time as the good Friday agreement? I.e. Tony Blair trying to feather his nest for his future European role?

Is Dominic Raab's quest to reform human rights law almost over?

The deputy PM says a British Bill of Rights will keep people safer, but it faces angry opposition.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[huwshpis]

No, we've been fully under the ECHR since the 1950's when we wrote most of the Convention.

 

[Sumo]

No, we've been fully under the ECHR since the 1950's when we wrote most of the Convention.

What's this bit in the report?

At the root of plenty of Conservative gripes about all this is the Human Rights Act, introduced by Labour in 1998, or more than likely what am I missing?

 

[Waspie]

Bloody hell!! Here you lot are debating the ECHR and here’s me panicking in case I haven’t got enough paint to finish my fence!!!!
I needs a break!! Oh! Here the ice cream lady now!!!
Carry on debating

 

[huwshpis]

All the Human Rights Act did was give extra powers to the UK courts to adjudicate on claims that Convention rights had been infringed. Before the HRA, any allegation that UK law was in breach of the ECHR could only be finally determined in Strasbourg.

The European Convention on Human Rights and Fundemental Freedoms was created by the Council of Europe, of which the UK was a leading member. It arose from the horrors of WW2 and was an attempt to provide guarantees that no nation could behave the way Germany had under Adolf. Most of the drafting was done by British lawyers, who would have been adamant that UK law did not depart from any of the rights enshrined in the Convention when it was agreed.

More nations have joined the Council and become entitled to send judges to the Court of Human Rights since the Convention was originally adopted in 1953. The majority of these countries have legal systems that operate in a very different way to ours and many of them are more 'liberal'; certainly countries that have emerged from a totalitarian past are more likely to want to extend the concepts of human rights than perhaps we are, as we have about a 1,000 year head start with the idea of the rule of law.

This is at the root of the dissatisfaction with the ECtHR, which has been developing since the late 1960s. Actions that we would, at the time, regard as perfectly legitimate in the defence of the realm were found not to be compliant with the Convention and there is, at the very least, a suspicion that the boundaries have been pushed to places we would not want them to go.

It does not help that politicians, who should know better, (and Wail journos who know nothing), conflate the ECtHR with the organs of the European Union when the reality is that they are completely different organisations in fact and law.

 

[fishhead]

I was reading today that our European neighbours(individual nations not EU) are quite adept at ignoring the ECHR rulings when it does not match their requirements. Examples given were Germany which only complies with 63% of its rulings while Spain only manages 39%. As an aside Russia is at only 10% which is no surprise but amazingly they do still have a judge at the court.
So, the EDHC is no stranger to being ignored and doesn't seem to take offence when it happens .

 

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Boris may be up shite creak without a paddle, but a bit rich coming from the krankie

By-election losses humiliating for PM - Sturgeon​

Scotland's First Minister Nicola Sturgeon says the Tories' by-election losses represent a "monumental, massive, humiliating vote of no confidence" in Boris Johnson.
The Conservatives lost the Wakefield seat in West Yorkshire to Labour – and Tiverton and Honiton in Devon to the Liberal Democrats.
Sturgeon says the result should send "a very strong message to the Conservatives" to remove the PM.
She says: "If they keep Boris Johnson, a law-breaking prime minister who has been seen to not tell the truth, if they keep him in office, then effectively they are all becoming complicit in this."

 

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Pot/Kettle, interrogative colour?

 

[taffscrivs]

Boris may be up shite creak without a paddle, but a bit rich coming from the krankie

By-election losses humiliating for PM - Sturgeon​

Scotland's First Minister Nicola Sturgeon says the Tories' by-election losses represent a "monumental, massive, humiliating vote of no confidence" in Boris Johnson.
The Conservatives lost the Wakefield seat in West Yorkshire to Labour – and Tiverton and Honiton in Devon to the Liberal Democrats.
Sturgeon says the result should send "a very strong message to the Conservatives" to remove the PM.
She says: "If they keep Boris Johnson, a law-breaking prime minister who has been seen to not tell the truth, if they keep him in office, then effectively they are all becoming complicit in this."

That's bloody rich coming from her.

 

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Taliban praises US Supreme Court for clamping down on women’s rights​

After the US Supreme Court overturned the landmark Roe vs Wade decision, Taliban officials in Afghanistan have warmly welcomed the move and praised the regressive thinking behind it.

Overturning an almost fifty-year-old decision that protects a pregnant woman’s liberty to choose to have an abortion without excessive government restriction will make the United States a much more pleasant land, according the Afghanistan’s new leadership, who spoke in glowing terms of the United States’ highest court.

Taliban spokesman, Sayid Faizilliams, told us, “We are delighted to see our brothers in the United States clamping down on the scourge that is ‘women’s rights’.

https://newsthump.com/2022/06/24/ta...eme-court-for-clamping-down-on-womens-rights/