Police Vetting vs MoD Vetting

[fishflakes]

Hi all, I wondering if anyone could answer a question about the security clearance used for the RN.

About 3 months ago I applied for the Met Police and failed their vetting process because in 2009, I was given a 'Penalty notice for disorder' (a fine and is considered less serious than a formal caution) for being drunk and disorderly. I am applying for the RN, and I'm wondering whether the vetting process is the same for both the Police and the MoD, and if so- is there any point in applying for the Navy?

For context- this was my first experience with alcohol, and since then I have graduated and held down a job, and is clearly a 'one off'

Thanks everyone!

 

[janner]

Jaggers will be alone directly to give you the definitive answer

 

[soleil]

Hi all, I wondering if anyone could answer a question about the security clearance used for the RN.

About 3 months ago I applied for the Met Police and failed their vetting process because in 2009, I was given a 'Penalty notice for disorder' (a fine and is considered less serious than a formal caution) for being drunk and disorderly. I am applying for the RN, and I'm wondering whether the vetting process is the same for both the Police and the MoD, and if so- is there any point in applying for the Navy?

For context- this was my first experience with alcohol, and since then I have graduated and held down a job, and is clearly a 'one off'

Thanks everyone!

Welcome Fishflakes

Have you attended an Initial Careers Presentation yet?

 

[fishflakes]

I've got as far as the sift interview for officers, and so the security clearance would be done after the AIB.

I mentioned the fine to the Petty Officer who said it would be ok, but I have a sneaky suspicion that if the MoD vetting process is the same as the Police Service vetting process that I wouldn't pass.

 

[fishflakes]

I thought that the Police may be more stringent- I didn't know whether it was a case of automated pass/fail, or whether there was human judgement involved. Hopefully then if there's human judgement involved that the Navy could see past a minor moment of madness.

Also, if anybody could confirm this- the Police standard of security check level is 'Developed Vetting', which is higher than the MoD's requirement level of 'Security Clearance' which may act in my favour.

Thanks again!

 

[finknottle]

Hi all, I wondering if anyone could answer a question about the security clearance used for the RN.

About 3 months ago I applied for the Met Police and failed their vetting process because in 2009, I was given a 'Penalty notice for disorder' (a fine and is considered less serious than a formal caution) for being drunk and disorderly. I am applying for the RN, and I'm wondering whether the vetting process is the same for both the Police and the MoD, and if so- is there any point in applying for the Navy?

For context- this was my first experience with alcohol, and since then I have graduated and held down a job, and is clearly a 'one off'

Thanks everyone!

Surprised there as I thought the Met took anyone but have no fear, the reason for your penalty notice should virtually guarantee your acceptance into the Andrew.

 

[sgtpepperband]

Also, if anybody could confirm this- the Police standard of security check level is 'Developed Vetting', which is higher than the MoD's requirement level of 'Security Clearance' which may act in my favour.

Not true. CTC as standard but often SC. DV clearance to certain specialist roles.

 

[Ninja_Stoker]

A `spot fine`, as far as SC is concerned for entry into the RN is "spent" once paid. A fine handed down by a court would indicate there`s a bit more to it than declared outwardly and under current rules, carries 5 years rehab (if over 18 ) before an individual is eligible to apply.

In the unlikely event the latter applies, the introduction of the Legal Aid, Sentencing & Punishment of Offenders Act scheduled November (ish) will significantly increase the number of candidates who have criminal convictions and are currently ineligible.

 

[Topstop]

A `spot fine`, as far as SC is concerned for entry into the RN is "spent" once paid. A fine handed down by a court would indicate there`s a bit more to it than declared outwardly and under current rules, carries 5 years rehab (if over 18 ) before an individual is eligible to apply.

In the unlikely event the latter applies, the introduction of the Legal Aid, Sentencing & Punishment of Offenders Act scheduled November (ish) will significantly increase the number of candidates who have criminal convictions and are currently ineligible.

Is that a Yes, a No or a definite Maybe?

 

[Ninja_Stoker]

Is that a Yes, a No or a definite Maybe?

Depends - court fine or spot fine?

 

[fishflakes]

Thanks for your views everyone, it's been a great help. It was an 'on the spot' fine by the way.

 

[Topstop]

Depends - court fine or spot fine?

Thank you.