points on your license

[creakin]

Picture the scene.........

travelling in the car (a two mile journey) going to my part time job as a beer puller and dispenser. Toddling along and get stuck behind a fcuking sunday driver doing 40 in a 60 zone. The 2 cars in front of me overtook, follow suit I thought, saw the oncoming solid white line but carried on. 1/2 mile later blue flashing light in the mirror, plain clothes motorbike. FCUK, fair cop (like fcuk) 3 points and a £60 fine later carried on to work. :cry:

I got to wondering how many points and fines have been dished out to RR shipmates last weekend. Surely I cant be the only one!

 

[Welshbird]

I got done for speeding a few weeks ago after being on a course at Jonathan Palmer Sports. During the day the instructor was screaming at me to stop driving like a girl and floor it! 130mph is quite exhillarating in a Porsche 911. So how can Surrey police possibly berate me for doing 42 in a 30!

:roll:

 

[Welshbird]

I got done for speeding a few weeks ago after being on a course at Jonathan Palmer Sports. During the day the instructor was screaming at me to stop driving like a girl and floor it! 130mph is quite exhillarating in a Porsche 911. So how can Surrey police possibly berate me for doing 42 in a 30!

:roll:

 

[wysiwyg]

Probably 'cos you did it twice!!!!

 

[sgtpepperband]

Last time I checked it is a 'speed limit' not a 'speed target'.

And maybe this 'Sunday driver' in front of you was driving like that as he was nervous because he had someone tailgating him! Or perhaps he was a new, inexperienced driver getting used to travelling on a busy road to boost his confidence (something you seem to have in abundance). And I'm sure when you first got your licence you were the best thing since sliced bread...

Admittedly the Highway Code does recommend that drivers are to keep to the left of the carriageway, some drivers (especially those that have been driving for long, boring journeys) sit in the middle land to prevent them getting distracted and swerving into the layby or central reservation.

By the way, does making a 'two mile journey' give you priority over other road users?! Drive with consideration to others' abilities - not just your own.

 

[asst_dep_to_dep_asst]

I130mph is quite exhillarating in a Porsche 911. So how can Surrey police possibly berate me for doing 42 in a 30!
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130 mph on a racetrack is OK, but 42 in a 30 is most certainly not. The TV ads that tell you the percentages of kids that survive a 30mph impact vs a 40mph one are pretty accurate. 42 is also nearly 50% over the legal limit, so you should probably have been banned!

 

[FlagWagger]

130 mph on a racetrack is OK, but 42 in a 30 is most certainly not. The TV ads that tell you the percentages of kids that survive a 30mph impact vs a 40mph one are pretty accurate. 42 is also nearly 50% over the legal limit, so you should probably have been banned!

And herein lies the stupidity of our current speeding regulations; in the eyes of the law, 42 in a 30 is exactly the same as 72 in a 60. They don't count percentages, they measure the absolute difference.

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[sgtpepperband]

130 mph on a racetrack is OK, but 42 in a 30 is most certainly not. The TV ads that tell you the percentages of kids that survive a 30mph impact vs a 40mph one are pretty accurate. 42 is also nearly 50% over the legal limit, so you should probably have been banned!

And herein lies the stupidity of our current speeding regulations; in the eyes of the law, 42 in a 30 is exactly the same as 72 in a 60. They don't count percentages, they measure the absolute difference.

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Try telling families and friends of people who have lost their lives through speeding that the regulations are stupid! See me previous post - it's a limit, not a target. If you don't like it move to Germany and drive like a boyracer on thr Autobahns.

 

[FlagWagger]

Try telling families and friends of people who have lost their lives through speeding that the regulations are stupid! See me previous post - it's a limit, not a target. If you don't like it move to Germany and drive like a boyracer on thr Autobahns.

I didn't say the regualtions were stupid, just the penalties associated with breaking them. Is 82 on a motorway more or less dangerous than 42 in a 30? The law regards them as equal and, in general, the penalties for both will be similar. However, I live in a village with a 30 limit and people speed through it past residential areas - with parked cars its only a matter of time before someone is killed, yet despite all the warnings people continue to ignore the limits. Why? SImply because there's no enforcement other than PC Gatso these days - plod has been largely removed from the traffic beat and enforcement is by means of a number of cameras at arbitrary locations, usually on non-residential roads. Its this blind faith in speed cameras as a sole means of road safety that bugs me - they don't stop drunk driving, reckless driving, dangerous driving, use of mobiles, driving under the influence of drugs or any of the other myriad forms of driving that kills people - speeding is undoubtedly a cause of some fatalities, however its not the only one by any stretch of the imagination.

I'll admit, that both in a car and on a bike I tend to take some liberties with speed limits, however, I don't break 30, 40 or 50 mph limits and as you rightly say these are limits not targets - if conditions dictate I drive/ride slower.

Rant over, off to lie down now!

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[TattooDog]

Just to point out that it doesn't matter how much you exceed the speed limit by, it's still against the law.

And no, I'm not "one of those fcuking Sunday drivers". I used to hit the floor with the rest of them up and down the 303 or Coast Road, but after doing an advanced driving course, realised what speed can do. You'd be surprised how long it takes you to stop doing 42mph as opposed to 30mph!

By the way, crossing a solid white line is also against the law :wink:

Also, before anyone starts ranting about speed cameras - remember that they are self financing. The more drivers get caught, the more they cameras they can afford - if everyone kept to the limit for 2 months, they wouldn't afford to keep the cameras running (staff to maintain them, process and analyse the photos etc). Only problem is that everyone wants everyone else to slow down :?

 

[Greenie]

Last time I checked it is a 'speed limit' not a 'speed target'.

And maybe this 'Sunday driver' in front of you was driving like that as he was nervous because he had someone tailgating him! Or perhaps he was a new, inexperienced driver getting used to travelling on a busy road to boost his confidence (something you seem to have in abundance). And I'm sure when you first got your licence you were the best thing since sliced bread...

Admittedly the Highway Code does recommend that drivers are to keep to the left of the carriageway, some drivers (especially those that have been driving for long, boring journeys) sit in the middle land to prevent them getting distracted and swerving into the layby or central reservation.

By the way, does making a 'two mile journey' give you priority over other road users?! Drive with consideration to others' abilities - not just your own.

the speed limit and the speed target these days seem to have merged into the recommended speed.

When I did my driving test it was drive within the speed limit but adjust speed to conditions within that upper limit.
However there have been on occasion drivers being prosecuted for driving too slowly------------------??????????

 

[lesbryan]

40 in a 60 it can all cause accidents.But there is no excuse for going over a solid white line none at all seed limits are there and work both ways.too slow(crawling) cause accident too fast stupid cause accident ||

 

[lesbryan]

That is correct a old friend got done for going too slow.It was a while ago got fined 30 quid didnt get any points though

 

[Nutty]

To enter a bigots point of view speed limits are a maximum, there is no minimum for which you can be nicked. What would happen in the case of a person going 40 mph in 60 mph limit is that he could be nicked for Driving with out due consideration to other road users, driving without due care. Dangerous driving. In all these cases if the motorist contested the ticket written out by the Police they would have to prove the offence in court. That takes, time, money, manpower from the Police and Courts so is not encouraged hence the reliance on GATSO.

Speed does not kill people, its make them more likely die in an accident, it is inappropriate speed for the road and conditions, undertaking, tailgating etc. that cause the accidents in which people die. Never being a fan of TrafPol I am convinced they should return to the roads and Police as they did 15 years ago with both highly visible and unmarked vehicles. In a recent drive from Brighton to Faslane and then Faslane to South London the next day I only saw one marked Police Vehicle on the Motorway and he was attending an accident. In Spain, Guardia Civil Traffico are like a rash, everywhere.

Nutty

 

[pots359v]

I got done for speeding a few weeks ago after being on a course at Jonathan Palmer Sports. During the day the instructor was screaming at me to stop driving like a girl and floor it! 130mph is quite exhillarating in a Porsche 911. So how can Surrey police possibly berate me for doing 42 in a 30!

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No sympathy for you at all, 30 and 40 mph zones strictly adhered to, once on the open road well its fair game, as my licence will reflect!