Plymouth - Economy at risk if navy jobs go

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Lantern Swinger
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Would a "reduced" Guzz dockyard be good for the RN? bad for plymouth obviously.

The MOD could save a lot of money by closing/reducing Guzz.

Annington homes could make a tidy profit by selling "surplus" MQ's

PS I am a PFK.
 
#3
It would a great shame if Guzz dockyard was reduced; not just for dockyard maties but for matelots as well. Pompey is a shitehole. However, times change and the University is probably as big an employer these days as the dockyard, although they probably don't need many dockyard tradesmen! The fact that there is a Labour MP in Plymouth might make the difference between closure and survival.
 
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wardmaster said:
It would a great shame if Guzz dockyard was reduced; not just for dockyard maties but for matelots as well. Pompey is a shitehole.
Having just disagreed with wardmaster on another thread, I find myself agreeing here. I grew up in the Pompey area and joined the RN to get away from the place. The area around Plymouth has so much going for it, it would be a shame if the Navy left.

Whether it will close though? I've long thought that at this moment in time it was probably safer than Pompey, largely Labour MPs here, Tory up there. The latest news good though, with the majority of the surface fleet in Pompey and all the submarines in Faslane. It does look like the navy will be having a drastically reduced prescence in the area.
 

sgtpepperband

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Tommo: You've got an "economy in your eyes"? Shouldn't it be in your pocket? Or have you neglected to use a comma in an appropriate place?! :wink:
 

sgtpepperband

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tommo said:
More than likely the later one. I'm a Welshman living in sunny Cornwall. I don't speak good England I'm afraid. lol
Aah, so you can swim then? Lots of sheep on that there peninsula, I hear... :wink:
 
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sgtpepperband said:
Tommo: You've got an "economy in your eyes"? Shouldn't it be in your pocket? Or have you neglected to use a comma in an appropriate place?! :wink:
Where should the comma be? "It would hurt the local economy, in my eyes"? Nah.
 
#12
The same thing was said about Chatham when they closed the yard there, and this was after spending zillions of pounds building a nuclear facility there.
The economy survived with a bot of a job, but has since gone on to better things not dependent on the mob.
Mind, I do wonder sometimes if they have told the homebuyers on St Mary's Island about the old toxic dumps there ????

:)
 
#14
Dockyard puts about 850 Million into the local economy..

This on the scheme of thing is Not as much percentage wise as it used to be.

NHS, Plymouth UNI, New medical school, PYI, have taken up the slack, thus students and other Local firms contribute Considerably more. The base will shrink but I can not see it closing as it will be the home to the Amphibious group, and FOST for some time to come.
 
#15
Mind you I suspect that it is unlikely the dockyard itself will lose out, no one else is going to maintain the nuclear boats, evenif we have very fewsurface ships to maintain. Also I suspect the SSN squadron cannot be accomodated at Faslane or Portsmaouth so it will saty, as will FOST, so perhaps not alldoom and gloom.
 
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sgtpepperband said:
tommo said:
More than likely the later one. I'm a Welshman living in sunny Cornwall. I don't speak good England I'm afraid. lol
Aah, so you can swim then? Lots of sheep on that there peninsula, I hear... :wink:
Indeed I f*ck the sheep, People then eat them. All good! :w00t: :thumright:
 
#17
Maxi_77 said:
Mind you I suspect that it is unlikely the dockyard itself will lose out, no one else is going to maintain the nuclear boats, evenif we have very fewsurface ships to maintain. Also I suspect the SSN squadron cannot be accomodated at Faslane or Portsmaouth so it will saty, as will FOST, so perhaps not alldoom and gloom.
There is only 1 Faslane based SSN still running. They are currently building a brand new "super mess" in Neptune. When we get down to, probably, the last 3 T boats (8 years time ?) then I have no doubt they will be moved to Faslane. Submarine upkeep periods (i.e. RAMPs/ LOP) will remain in Guzz for the foreseeable but in terms of a base for running SSNs then the writing is on the wall :thumright:
 
#18
notafourknotfudgepacker said:
They are currently building a brand new "super mess" in Neptune.
That just means that closure of Neptune is a dead cert ;)

It probably then makes perfect sense to relocate the submarine community to Grimsby or similar...
 
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