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Plans To Mark 100 Years Since The Beginning Of The First World War In 2014 Announced

finknottle

Banned
Which is fair enough, 'each to their own' applies heavily to remembrance and so forth, but I don't see how this proposition can be seen as all that negative either. The younger generation seems to have little grasp on events (it is not in the curriculum) and anything which brings it back to the fore should be seen as good? I cant imagine it will be a continuous 4 year thing, and no one will be forced to attend whatever services etc they decide to put on. Far much worse going on at the moment than getting all twisty about this surely!

Yes there are much worse things going on at the moment and they should be the focus of our attention. As I see it only a sociopath would laud the outbreak of such a horrific war or any war for that matter.

Why would or should the younger generation have a grasp of the events, it was 100 years ago? I mean how far back do you want to go?
 

Dredd

War Hero
Super Moderator
Yes there are much worse things going on at the moment and they should be the focus of our attention. As I see it only a sociopath would laud the outbreak of such a horrific war or any war for that matter.

Why would or should the younger generation have a grasp of the events, it was 100 years ago? I mean how far back do you want to go?

Is that a serious question? From someone who served in an organisation with 500+ years of tradition behind it I find just asking that to be somewhat astonishing.

As George Santayana said in his book Reason in Common Sense - "Those who cannot remember the past, are doomed to repeat it".

Your comment Finks is along the lines of "what do I have to learn from history, it's all just boring dates and stuff, innit".
 

Rachelthree

War Hero
Haha surely finks is just trying to be contraversial- i am all for everyone having different opinions on things, but not even recognising a small slither of validity in others especially related to this subject is bizarre.

Though this does sound pretty terrible, i see how the government are using this for their own gain:

'Culture Secretary Maria Miller announced details of the 4-year plan today, which is to include national acts of remembrance and a scheme of Great War battlefield visits for schoolchildren, together with an extensive UK-wide cultural programme'

I mean, we still teach about the tudors, romans etc but 100 years ago- why bother it was so long ago.
 

finknottle

Banned
Is that a serious question? From someone who served in an organisation with 500+ years of tradition behind it I find just asking that to be somewhat astonishing.

As George Santayana said in his book Reason in Common Sense - "Those who cannot remember the past, are doomed to repeat it".

Your comment Finks is along the lines of "what do I have to learn from history, it's all just boring dates and stuff, innit".

I thoroughly enjoyed history at school that subject alongside Geography and English were my favourites. As for learning from the past, I am not the poor man you thought I might be as on a personal note I have learned from the mistakes that I made when I was younger.

The next thing we will be hearing will be that Angela Merkel will be playing in goal at the friendly game with Germany, to take place in a field near Passchendaele on Christmas Eve next year.
 
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guestm

Guest
Haha surely finks is just trying to be contraversial- i am all for everyone having different opinions on things, but not even recognising a small slither of validity in others especially related to this subject is bizarre.

That's what he does, sadly. He exists to be contrary, then PMs you to complain. He's best ignored.
 

RoyalNavyMaverick

Midshipman
To have a "substantial" naval contribution towards a centennial event we would first have to have a substantial navy. That we do not! #Thanksdefencereview


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Flagdeck

War Hero
To have a "substantial" naval contribution towards a centennial event we would first have to have a substantial navy. That we do not! #Thanksdefencereview


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No we don't........a substantial and significant contribution can still be made....and I'm sure will be.
 

RoyalNavyMaverick

Midshipman
And just what are we going to use to make this contribution? We have very little. It will be a damp squib, I'm willing to put my RN pension on it....... Oh wait a minute, that's also not substantial anymore either lol the last thing of any real creditable size that the RN did was the fleet review T200. We wouldn't be able to create an event of that size again. Unfortunate but true.


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guestm

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And just what are we going to use to make this contribution? We have very little. It will be a damp squib, I'm willing to put my RN pension on it....... Oh wait a minute, that's also not substantial anymore either lol the last thing of any real creditable size that the RN did was the fleet review T200. We wouldn't be able to create an event of that size again. Unfortunate but true.


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Now, would that be your pension you got after 29 years of service or after you were made redundant following 13 years? You seem confused.

You don't need a fleet of Tribal, Leander and Amazons to put on a show. During the Olympics all we had to do was throw the Ocean up the Thames and the nation frothed at the gusset. Quality not quantity. Besides, it isn't T200 or the fleet review. It is a 4 year cultural and remembrance programme including a large grant for HMS Caroline which will be used to educate the public about the RN's involvement in the war.
 

WreckerL

War Hero
Super Moderator
And just what are we going to use to make this contribution? We have very little. It will be a damp squib, I'm willing to put my RN pension on it....... Oh wait a minute, that's also not substantial anymore either lol the last thing of any real creditable size that the RN did was the fleet review T200. We wouldn't be able to create an event of that size again. Unfortunate but true.


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My pensions quite substantial enough for me and mine and goes up every year, you obviously weren't in long enough :)
 

RoyalNavyMaverick

Midshipman
Your quite right WreckerL, but my new civvy salary more than makes up for the loss. Ah the benefits of working for a company that's not in suspended reality. I can't honestly understand why the poor chaps put themselves through staying inside when jobs for the qualified are plentiful outside at the moment, and most with better prospect.


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guestm

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Ah Monts, you never fail to amuse me with your investigative nature. Happy days


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It's amusing to me, you big mixed up fibber:

(I never thought after 29 years of service i would be saying this, but the world is changing and we need to adapt bettre with it)

I have just wasted 12 years of my life for a redundancy payment of 18700 ( as predicted/calculated by pay section HMS Collingwood.

Seems a very small redundancy payment for a Warrant officer with 29 years. Or is it 12? Who knows. What I do know is that if you read the link in the original post you'd understand more what is to be achieved. It saves wading into a thread talking turd about T200 etc. Educate yourself: https://www.gov.uk/government/topical-events/first-world-war-centenary
 

Guzzler

War Hero
Your quite right WreckerL, but my new civvy salary more than makes up for the loss. Ah the benefits of working for a company that's not in suspended reality. I can't honestly understand why the poor chaps put themselves through staying inside when jobs for the qualified are plentiful outside at the moment, and most with better prospect.


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Oh Christ, another one.
 
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