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Plans To Mark 100 Years Since The Beginning Of The First World War In 2014 Announced

Flagdeck

War Hero
I can understand marking the end of the war but not the beginning!

IMO the whole shebang looks like a misanthropic attempt by HMG to distract the plebs from just how far up shit-creek we are, we will hoist up the bunting and have a gay old time for the next 4 years, bah humbug.

No doubt it will be an opportunity for the Brit goons to come out from under their stones and vent anti German feelings.

FFS Finx, it's a very significant event for a lot of people, whether it be the futility of war or the glorious dead, if you can't post anything positive or meaningful, shut the fcuk up.
 

finknottle

Banned
FFS Finx, it's a very significant event for a lot of people, whether it be the futility of war or the glorious dead, if you can't post anything positive or meaningful, shut the fcuk up.

Sorry about not joining the flock flags but I am entitled to my opinion just as you are. It was 100 years ago and we should be moving on and not dwelling in the past. It would appear that Cameron's plan has worked and the masses have been distracted. It used to be beer, fags and football.
 

fishhead

War Hero
There is plenty to be learned from the past Finks. The British Expeditionary Force set out in September 1914 to save the Belgians from the German onslaught, a little job that was going to be all over by Christmas. We all know how that turned out. Even the most stupid of politicians can see that ill advised forays into wars that look easy to win don't always(if ever) go to plan.
If the intended commemorations achieve this it won't be a waste of time.
 

WreckerL

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Super Moderator
Sorry about not joining the flock flags but I am entitled to my opinion just as you are. It was 100 years ago and we should be moving on and not dwelling in the past. It would appear that Cameron's plan has worked and the masses have been distracted. It used to be beer, fags and football.

Well there's hypocrisy in action for you, having just read all the crap you posted in the "Illustrious in Istanbul" thread and how the modern RN is full of ill-disciplined buffoons who don't know how to behave, and wimmin at sea, yet to be tested (although you never explained that) and then you post that bollocks.

You really do need to take a long hard look at yourself, and make sure you take in both faces!!
 

tommo

War Hero
I will always remember the past. My relatives fought in the world wars, wars prior and wars since. He who forgets and moves on is a poor man
 

Bad CO

Admin
RND feature heavily at Gallipoli... so yes. We've done a lot in NN over the past decade on the RND - Arras, Somme, Passchendaele, German spring offensive.

Apologies, but for obvious reasons (I'm in the Army) I don't get to see it much

"The Navy has won a victory even more complete than Trafalgar, but less spectacular, and because of this lack of display, one feels that the unthinking do not fully realise what the nation - indeed the whole world, owes to the British Navy."
- First Sea Lord Wester Wemyss, Nov 12, 1918.

But then he would say that wouldn't he? Try getting any modern senior officer to admit that Iraq or Afghanistan haven't been model COIN campaigns!

Is the surrender of the High Seas Fleet a victory? Yes it is. The surrender of the entire German Fleet, the second largest in the world - can't think of anything comparable in naval or wider military history.

I'm not denying it was an important victory but in context, this was part of a wider surrender of all German military resources. The reason that happened was because their politicians sued for peace after their Army was decisively defeated in the field in 1918 (I'd recommend Forgotten Victory by Gary Sheffield btw). I'd therefore argue that the surrender of the Imperial Fleet was primarily as a result of what was achieved by the British (incl Commonwealth/Dominion), French and American armies.
 

finknottle

Banned
Well there's hypocrisy in action for you, having just read all the crap you posted in the "Illustrious in Istanbul" thread and how the modern RN is full of ill-disciplined buffoons who don't know how to behave, and wimmin at sea, yet to be tested (although you never explained that) and then you post that bollocks.

You really do need to take a long hard look at yourself, and make sure you take in both faces!!


Your post has the sum total of FA to do with the event under discussion.
 

WreckerL

War Hero
Super Moderator
Your post has the sum total of FA to do with the event under discussion.

It has relevance due to your stilted view that it's all a charade by the polly's, as you've stated in the PM you just sent me.

I put it to you that your posts detract from the sacrifices far far better men, and women, have made than you have or are likely to.
 
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guestm

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Finknottle. Do you complain that Remembrance has gone on too long, that we're all dwelling in the past and that it's simply an elaborate distraction perpetuated by government?

It is almost 100 years since the great war, a milestone and landmark that should rightly be marked. I appreciate your want to be contrary at every turn but your role as chief agitator is not only tiresome but misplaced here. If you're going to troll, do it with panache or humour.
 

Ageing_Gracefully

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Sorry about not joining the flock flags but I am entitled to my opinion just as you are. It was 100 years ago and we should be moving on and not dwelling in the past. It would appear that Cameron's plan has worked and the masses have been distracted. It used to be beer, fags and football.

"Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it."
(As quoted by many people is several slightly differing forms)
 
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guestm

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Finknottle.

Stop with your throbbing PMs too, there's a good chap.
 

finknottle

Banned
I for one am not trying to forget remembrance; I will turn out every November for as long as I am able, that annual service encompasses it all for me.
 

Rachelthree

War Hero
I for one am not trying to forget remembrance; I will turn out every November for as long as I am able, that annual service encompasses it all for me.

Which is fair enough, 'each to their own' applies heavily to remembrance and so forth, but I don't see how this proposition can be seen as all that negative either. The younger generation seems to have little grasp on events (it is not in the curriculum) and anything which brings it back to the fore should be seen as good? I cant imagine it will be a continuous 4 year thing, and no one will be forced to attend whatever services etc they decide to put on. Far much worse going on at the moment than getting all twisty about this surely!
 
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