Ladies and Gents, Towards the end of the thread on the Carrier TV programme, a little debate was started about the standards of fitness (size etc...) of some of those that appeared, with some comparison being made with the sailors of yesteryear (tanned, fit, hearts of oak to a man etc...). Given that topic is now dead-ish, I thought I'd continue the debate on its own thread. Now we currently have a yearly fitness test, which is basically a run, the training for which is meant to be done in your own time. My question is whether this, alone, is enough or should we put into the working week organised and compulsory PT periods. Levers has already pointed out the cost implications and there are undoubtedly some but wouldn't it be worthwhile to have say two 45 minute sessions a week by division (or department) run by the PTs? Not only would it drive up fitness standards but it may, he says raising his head above the parapet, give the PTs something else to do rather than arrange their next AT activity.