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SEP86

War Hero
CIS is lower - I think at all rates, but someone else will doubtless confirm that.

Here we go again on the Pay 2000 debate ......
 

rolling-stone

Lantern Swinger
Also how do levels work and how long does it roughly take to progress through one? Or is that entirely dependant on yourself?
 

rolling-stone

Lantern Swinger
Ok thank you very much for the info and yeah fair enough I don't need to know who is on higher I guess.
Just one more point, so it will take me 9 years to reach leading rate if it's 1 year per level? Or can you progress onto leading without completing all 9 Ab levels?
 

tommo

War Hero
You can get promoted to LH before level 9 yes or you can be a level 9 AB


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Guns

War Hero
Moderator
Should be interesting to how the CIS branch fares as it becomes more aligned with the Engineers on skill sets and quals. Not to mention the branch review currently under way.
 

tiddlyoggy

War Hero
Book Reviewer
Let's be honest though, the comms branch aren't the most overworked branch in the mob are they? Ooooh watchkeeping is so hard! Harder when you have a POS to turn to on during the day.
 

RabC

MIA
Should be interesting to how the CIS branch fares as it becomes more aligned with the Engineers on skill sets and quals. Not to mention the branch review currently under way.
Hasn't the RN been round and round this topic before with EBD and WBD? I thought finally the RN had realised that at no point is a scope dope or button pusher comparable with an Engineer, fair dos they are one up on pillow fluffers..............
 

Topstop

War Hero
If I remember rightly,

Low is Acting, passed PPE but not done course.

Medium is Rate confirmed(1 year after course?)

Higher is passed PPE for next rate but not acting(no vacancy).
 

Guns

War Hero
Moderator
Seeing as the CIS branch is now the lead Networks team onboard they are most defiantly becoming more technician than Warfare. Which is why the trials on the employment of the CIS branch and the need for radical change in how we do "Information" will see big changes. Personally I think the WE and ME branches should merge in to an Engineering Branch (Marine, Weapons and Sensors) with Information Systems and Networks a separate branch.

The future of comms is about networks, generating a traditional voice circuit on an LPD is not about tuning and radio sets, its about managing the network and programming what circuit is delivered to which person.

The average LCIS is now as technically trained on networks and servers as many WE's, in fact I have found the AB(CIS)1 are way ahead of many senior people. There is a change afoot. Read the RNTMs and if you have an opinion voice it to the Requirements people as they struggle with this issue.
 

Topstop

War Hero
You're way off ...

There are two scales, low and high, these are decided by the JSJET, using a scoring system. As I said previously the system of Job Evaluation is complex and not just set on whether someone perceives a job to be easy, or not.

All rates/ranks are on the same pay scale in each particular trade regardless of being OPS/Qualified for the next rank or rate.

All of this info is in JSP 754


Changed since I was in then? Scale A. B. C.?
 
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TheCommunicator

Lantern Swinger
Should be interesting to how the CIS branch fares as it becomes more aligned with the Engineers on skill sets and quals. Not to mention the branch review currently under way.
Some of my colleagues believe that when they become WEs they will be higher payband throughout as we're now engineers. Personally I think it's more likely that we will become lower band throughout in a similar relationship to how the ETs are higher and the legacy mechanics are lower.

I've always thought the CIS were seen off because we were bundled together with all the Warfare sub-branches, if they'd all been JEd separately there might have been a chance of us being higher.

I'll wait and see!
 
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