Passing of WW1 Naval Vets in the US

CHARLOTTE HALL, Maryland - Lloyd Brown, the last known U.S. Navy veteran to fight in World War I, has died. He was 105.

Brown died Thursday at the Charlotte Hall Veterans Home in Maryland, according to family and the U.S. Naval District in Washington.

His death comes days after the death of the last known surviving American female World War I veteran, Charlotte L. Winters, 109. Their deaths leave three known survivors who served in the Army, and a fourth who lives in Washington state but served in the Canadian army, according to the Department of Veterans Affairs.

The fourth of nine children, Brown was born Oct. 7, 1901, in Lutie, Missouri, a small farming town in the Ozark Mountains. In 1918, 16-year-old Brown lied about his age to join the Navy and was soon on the gun crew on the battleship USS New Hampshire.

"All the young men were going in the service. They were making the headlines, the boys that enlisted," Brown told the (Baltimore) Sun in a 2005 interview. "And all the girls liked someone in uniform."

Brown finished his tour of duty in 1919, took a break for a couple of years, then re-enlisted. He learned to play the cello at musicians school at Norfolk, Virginia, and was assigned to an admiral's 10-piece chamber orchestra aboard the USS Seattle.

When Brown ended his military career in 1925, he joined the Washington Fire Department's Engine Company 16, which served the White House and embassies.

Washington D.C. -- Charlotte Louise Berry Winters, the last known Navy Yeoman (F) and female veteran of World War I, was laid to rest March 30 in Frederick, Md. Winters died at the age of 109 on March 27.

Her funeral was attended by an honor guard, pall bearers, and firing party from the Navy Ceremonial Guard, along with family and friends.

Vice Adm. Nancy E. Brown, Joint Staff director of Command, Control, Communications and Computer Systems (C4 Systems), presented the casket flag to the family.

"Every Sailor in our Navy joins me today in mourning the passing of our shipmate, Charlotte Winters. We offer her family and friends our deepest sympathies and most heartfelt condolences," said Chief of Naval Operations Adm. Mike Mullen.

After enlisting in 1917, Winters served at the Washington Navy Yard in Building 57, current home of the Naval Historical Center. One of the last Yeoman (F)s to be discharged in 1919, she was immediately hired by the Navy as a civilian to fill her active-duty job.

"Ms. Winters was a trailblazer, one of a relatively small group of women to serve in our Navy during World War I. She did so honorably and nobly, helping through that service to bring freedom to millions of people all across Europe and hope to thousands of young women all across America," said Mullen.

"She and her shipmates answered the call when the nation needed them most. They worked hard. They struggled. They persevered, and they set a shining example. And, as in Ms. Winter's case, some stayed on to prepare the Navy to fight and win yet another World War. They were patriots, and we will remain forever in their debt," Mullen added.

Winters was a founding member of the National Yeoman (F) veterans’ organization, and served as its eighth commander from 1940-1941.

Later, she met and married her husband John F. Winters, a yard machinist, in 1947. Retiring in 1953, her connection with the Navy spanned from World War I through the Korean War.

A Civil War enthusiast, she and her husband toured the country to visit famous battle sites; eventually visiting every state except Hawaii.

Her husband preceded her in death by 24 years.

The Yeoman (F)s, popularly called ‘Yeomanettes’ to their objection, were established by Secretary of the Navy Josephus Daniels in 1917 after the U.S. entry into the war.

At the time the Navy and Marines were the only branches of the U.S. armed forces to enlist women to serve in a similar status with men. The expanding Navy and Marines had a dire need for more clerks and stenographers, while also needing to free male Sailors and Marines for fleet duty. Recruited at first just for clerical duties, by the end of the war their jobs included being language translators and making munitions in factories.

Records show that 11,000 Yeoman (F)s, 1,713 female nurses, and 269 women Marines (Marinettes) served in World War I. For many years they, along with Army nurses, were the only women eligible to join the American Legion, and the only ones eligible to receive a bonus voted to veterans of World War I.

Daniels later commented in 1943: “They were so capable and showed such skill that scores were enabled to do, and to do excellently, a character of work done exclusively by men. In a word, the women in the Navy did everything except going to sea … the women saved the day for the Navy in World War days.â€

The Yeoman (F)s were of such invaluable service to the country that there was no question of women returning to Navy service during World War II as the WAVES (Women Accepted for Voluntary Emergency Service).

The success of the WAVES in turn paved the way for the 1948 permanent establishment of women in Navy. So, not only did the Yeoman (F)s provide exceptional service during World War I, they set a standard of excellence for women in the U.S. military which is carried on to today.

"Theodore Roosevelt once observed that 'no nation has the root of greatness in it unless in time of need it can rise to the heroic mood.' Ms. Winters and every other American Sailor of World War I -- man or woman -- certainly rose to the heroic mood. We salute her memory, and we thank her for inspiring us to do the same," Mullen added.
That's it 1917 -18 war rather a short one! None the less rather nasty even for the shortness of it! RIP to all of 'em. Pity it didn't change anything, we're still sending young men and woment to their deaths (for nothing) or worse


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moondog said:
dhobyitch said:
wardmaster said:
Would that would be the 1916-1918 War, as opposed to the Great War, which began in 1914? :lol:
I think the Americans attended 1917-1918.
Royal Naval Division!! Belgium
Mons Gallipoli,Somme.need I go on!!
would be disappointed and quite frankly amazed if you didn't.... :)


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moondog said:
dhobyitch said:
wardmaster said:
Would that would be the 1916-1918 War, as opposed to the Great War, which began in 1914? :lol:
I think the Americans attended 1917-1918.
Royal Naval Division!! Belgium
Mons Gallipoli,Somme.need I go on!!
ahhhh... nice one. Some 109 year old american (who passes away peacefully) is one the last. She joined aged 18. Go on moondog, grab the calculator. Have a go at working it out. She did her bit as soon as she could. Before we start bashing the yanks, what about the neutral dutch?

Whey the hell should the Americans have been involved from 1914? Why should Britain for that matter?