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Outbreak of freedom of speech in Wales

SILVER_FOX

War Hero
Incredible! The result really surprised me on this one. Whilst I don't necessarily agree with his narrow minded attitude, I do believe in the right to peaceful protest and he should never have been stopped.

This is particularly important when you consider that many of the recent protests by the more fanatical elements of the Muslim communities have been inciting murder and anarchy and yet most are left to get on with it.

What a strange country we live in.

SF
 

slim

War Hero
What has gone wrong with our country.
Is freedom of speech now only available to Muslim clerics?
They seem to be able to promote the stoning of homosexuals without fear of any repercussions
Though I disagree with his point of view I believe that he is entitled to it and if he wishes hand out leaflets condemning homosexuality. He was carrying out a peaceful protest in line with his beliefs.
The Welsh police would be better served fighting real crime which is happening on their patch
 
Green, unusually in this case, was not inciting hatred against gays. His statements at this Mardi Gras were perfectly reasonable. However his past record may have given the police reasonable grounds to fear that his behaviour could have led to a breach of the peace and public disorder may thereby have arisen. Green has no qualms in using his website to propergate misinformation about gays and gays in the police in particular, which itself could lead to others using violence towards gays, whether or not he deliberately sets out to incite this sort of conduct. The Human Rights Act does not entitle him to do this as he has overstepped the mark in seeking to deny gays their rights and freedoms - a prohibited act. He is entitled to say that in his opinion, penile-**** penetration (PAP) is sinful because the Bible appears to say so. Whilst his theological beliefs entitle him to condemn PAP they do not entitle him to condemn any other activity by gays on grounds of religion. Other beliefs about gays and what homosexuality entails are opinions and not faith positions. If opinions that are not faith positions, and not thereby protected speech breach the Public Order Act or OAPA he should not be protected. When a Christian or Muslim asserts gays spread disease this is not a legitimate faith position - it is personal opinion and not protected. Sadly there is a reluctance to fully test the scope of the law in this area by the DPP and CPS. The religious faith of many CPS & DPP staff may explain this reluctance to act.
 

slim

War Hero
Always_a_Civvy said:
Green, unusually in this case, was not inciting hatred against gays. His statements at this Mardi Gras were perfectly reasonable. However his past record may have given the police reasonable grounds to fear that his behaviour could have led to a breach of the peace and public disorder may thereby have arisen. Green has no qualms in using his website to propergate misinformation about gays and gays in the police in particular, which itself could lead to others using violence towards gays, whether or not he deliberately sets out to incite this sort of conduct. The Human Rights Act does not entitle him to do this as he has overstepped the mark in seeking to deny gays their rights and freedoms - a prohibited act. He is entitled to say that in his opinion, penile-**** penetration (PAP) is sinful because the Bible appears to say so. Whilst his theological beliefs entitle him to condemn PAP they do not entitle him to condemn any other activity by gays on grounds of religion. Other beliefs about gays and what homosexuality entails are opinions and not faith positions. If opinions that are not faith positions, and not thereby protected speech breach the Public Order Act or OAPA he should not be protected. When a Christian or Muslim asserts gays spread disease this is not a legitimate faith position - it is personal opinion and not protected. Sadly there is a reluctance to fully test the scope of the law in this area by the DPP and CPS. The religious faith of many CPS & DPP staff may explain this reluctance to act.

But gays do spread disease, however only the same diseases and in similar quantities to heterosexuals. However I think that Green was objecting on religious grounds and handing out religious tracts. Isn't it about time that homosexuals ignored these people. This would give them far less publicity and would be far more effective than rising to the bait.
 

andym

War Hero
Back to the Title,how can they have free speech with words like Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch!!!!!!
 
slim said:
But gays do spread disease, however only the same diseases and in similar quantities to heterosexuals. However I think that Green was objecting on religious grounds and handing out religious tracts.

BZ Slim! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Isn't it about time that homosexuals ignored these people. This would give them far less publicity and would be far more effective than rising to the bait.

It would be easier to ignore them were they not so influential in Parliament, the Police and Judiciary. Could you ignore them if they sought to link, say, all male sailors with paedophilia in the same way that they seek to link all gays, using psuedoscience?

andym said:
Back to the Title,how can they have free speech with words like Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch!!!!!!

I learned on my Summer cruise that all Welsh place names are descriptive of the place - hence their length. I cannot remember what Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch translates as though :oops:
 

slim

War Hero
andym said:
Back to the Title,how can they have free speech with words like Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch!!!!!!

I learned on my Summer cruise that all Welsh place names are descriptive of the place - hence their length. I cannot remember what Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch translates as though :oops:[/quote]

I believe it means " The only gay in the village has left and is now appearing on television"
 
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