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guestm

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From experience, older joiners are an absolute joy to have in my division. Their work ethic is excellent, they mentor and drive their younger peers, they buy right into C2Drill and fly through the ranks.

Joining late is no handicap at all. The only thing you may find difficult is living in very close quarters to 18 year olds who have never been away from home and party like a rockstar every night without the faculties to do it well.

However, if you get the opportunity to join as an Officer, do not turn that down. There is no downside v rating if it is indeed an option.

Finally, don't listen to Slim regarding the 'mentally inferior officer ordering you around' rubbish. The only mentally inferior people ordering you around will be senior rates. It's how we roll.

Good luck.
 
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Nile1798

Newbie
Cheers Montigny! That is really appreciated. I was in the Cadets when I was younger and have a distinct recollection of the 'party atmosphere' 17/18 yr olds can create - and the trouble! One guy wouldn't stop playing Another Level 'Freak Me' for an entire week at full blast. Terrible tune then and now. Still in my head though... (Showing my age as well!)

But anyway, that's the sort of positive answer, from experience, that I was hoping for. Will just sign up, sit the RT and then see what happens. Either way it is something I will definitely regret if I don't go for it now (pre-kids/mortgage etc.)
 
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guestm

Guest
Cheers Montigny! That is really appreciated. I was in the Cadets when I was younger and have a distinct recollection of the 'party atmosphere' 17/18 yr olds can create - and the trouble! One guy wouldn't stop playing Another Level 'Freak Me' for an entire week at full blast. Terrible tune then and now. Still in my head though... (Showing my age as well!)

But anyway, that's the sort of positive answer, from experience, that I was hoping for. Will just sign up, sit the RT and then see what happens. Either way it is something I will definitely regret if I don't go for it now (pre-kids/mortgage etc.)

Coincidentally, along with 'Sweet Caroline', 'Freak me' is my go-to Karaoke number if available. It's awful, which is the point.

Again, good luck and let us know how you get on.
 

slim

War Hero
Do you know any serving officers Slim? Observed any of them at work?

Mods who may or may not be serving don't count.

Nile 1798, there are plenty of RFA/RN comparison posts from both knowledgable and full of shit persuasions on the site.


Hello Seadog
The answer to your question is of course NO!
However I cannot believe that in the 31 years since I left the RN the officer corp has lost ALL officers who enjoyed belittling those on the lower deck.
I have already admitted to noticing a huge change in the structure a few years ago when I was fortunate enough to enjoy a day at sea with HMS Manchester. It was certainly a change for the better.
I do not have a thing about occifers, in fact if you read my posts I always advise those who are educationally qualified to try the officer route first.
 

Sumo

War Hero
Kin hell Slim yo
Hello Seadog
The answer to your question is of course NO!
However I cannot believe that in the 31 years since I left the RN the officer corp has lost ALL officers who enjoyed belittling those on the lower deck.
I have already admitted to noticing a huge change in the structure a few years ago when I was fortunate enough to enjoy a day at sea with HMS Manchester. It was certainly a change for the better.
I do not have a thing about occifers, in fact if you read my posts I always advise those who are educationally qualified to try the officer route first.
Kin hell Slim you could be this OPs great great great great great great great great sea dad, maybe a few greats short.:D:D:p:rolleyes:
 

slim

War Hero
I like the cut of your Jib Sumo.
I do realise that todays RN is completely different to the one in which I served, smaller more efficient and much of the class discrimination has disappeared (thank goodness)
 
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yandex

Guest
If you have the qualifications needed to enter the RN as an officer then do it.
Problem with educated sailors on the lower deck is that it can sometimes be difficult being ordered around by some of the officers who are mentally inferior to you but cannot accept it. I believe that this type of officer may be dying out but would not hold my breath

What would Tugg have made of it?

A question of degree.

My Sp..t Ar..d 2 Ringer Boss has only got a Douglas Hurd from John Moores--I've got a bleedin Geoff Hurst from Southampton Solent. Mind you I wouldn't mind givin' 'er one.
 

Sumo

War Hero
Not worked with RN for 4 years but the changes I saw from leaving in 1998 was the SMs heading a bit towards skimmer type routines and the skimmers had taken big steps towards SM way of doing things, it looked to me that the RN were trying to use the best of both worlds. Recognition of rank or rate was always noted, but in boats it was what you did as part of the crew that earned respect, as I saw things, once trained you knew what was expected and carried that out in a professional manure. There will always be *********'s that slip through the net, Wardroom and lower deck, but they tend to be the minority and not the norm.
Still say to the OP, officer if you get the chance, that is the advice I gave my own kids, they said sod off we are not joining any armed force? Wife trained them well?
 

wave_dodger

MIA
Book Reviewer
@Nile1798 I'd go into this more carefully with a recruiter and I'd suggest, as others have, if you have any inclination for Officer then you should aim for that at the offset.

I had people in my Divisions at BRNC who had been extracted within weeks of joining RALEIGH, but they were lucky and also displayed clear potential, others are not so fortunate and whilst the system to identify and pull talent forward constantly improves, I'd suggest there is still an element of a lottery and you want to avoid that if at all possible.

Unless I've missed it you don't identify any specific branch that you may be interested in. Logistics is a clear candidate particularly as your legal training would be useful and that may allow them some sway in getting you past any initial hurdles. Engineering I suspect is out which leaves Warfare and TMO, the latter I increasingly suspect does not have a long term future, for a variety of reasons.

Joining Warfare at your age will impose a few potential hurdles in terms of promotion, reach for Command, but if you can reconcile that I suspect you could still have a fulfilling career and think about specialising in an area such as Intelligence, where a lawyers analytical mind may be useful.

Good luck.
 

Sumo

War Hero
WD sort of what I was thinking, the good have a habit of getting to the top, but why waste more time than is necessary,as you say time and availability for promotion may be an issue.
 

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