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Officer progression post BRNC

wannabejack

Lantern Swinger
I was just going off what was on my joining letter (i've been in for less than a year). The way it's worded implies that it's the case for all UYs. Didn't realise it wasn't. I stand corrected!
 

wave_dodger

MIA
Book Reviewer
Ive just looked this up for reasons I wont bore anyone with Wave_dodger lol.

Is this not right wannabejack?

on entry..

less than a years service...Midshipman

1-2 years service ............Midshipman with 1 years seniority

2-3 years service.............Sub Lieutenant

3 years +........................Sub Lieutenant with 1 years seniority

http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news-an...ents/naval publications/br 3/br3book/ch66.pdf

Thanks Fella, DII has been a bit slow here we couldn't get BR3 to load (must be past its bed time).

I did wonder - it would have been a brave step to make all UY instant Mids.
 

cjg375

Lantern Swinger
Ive just looked this up for reasons I wont bore anyone with Wave_dodger lol.

Is this not right wannabejack?

on entry..

less than a years service...Midshipman

1-2 years service ............Midshipman with 1 years seniority

2-3 years service.............Sub Lieutenant

3 years +........................Sub Lieutenant with 1 years seniority

http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news-an...ents/naval publications/br 3/br3book/ch66.pdf

That table only applies to pre-Sept 13. After Sept 13 it's the same as direct entry for UY.

6634. Promotion to Lieutenant RN/Captain RM pre and post 1 Sep 13 - Upper Yardman/ Corps Commission candidates
a. Post 1 Sep 13. With the exception of the September 2013 UY/CC entry, for whom pre-Sep 13 promotion rules will continue to apply (see Para 6634 sub para b), ratings and other ranks promoted via the UY and CC schemes respectively will be awarded the same rank and seniority on entry as their Direct Entry officer counterparts (set out at Para 6632 sub para a and Para 6633 sub para a).
b. Pre 1 Sep 13. UY/CC officers were awarded up to three years' antedated seniority on entry based on their time served as a rating or other rank that reckoned for engagement purposes (see Table 66-4). No additional award was made for educational qualifications held.


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DruAde

Lantern Swinger
Lol why dont they make it easy to actually find out ?? Why leave pre sept 2013 in the doc if its not right then?
 

cjg375

Lantern Swinger
Lol why dont they make it easy to actually find out ?? Why leave pre sept 2013 in the doc if its not right then?

Cos there are still people in the pipeline that are affected by the old rules. They will have worked out when no one is affected anymore and it'll be removed in the next update after. Some changes to RN rules take up to 8 years to work through.


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wave_dodger

MIA
Book Reviewer
Thought I was right - if I wasn't a lot of paperwork I'm currently reading would have been wrong. Had me worried for a while - it's not unknown for the Navy to slip in additional changes and forget to broadcast it internally.
 

cjg375

Lantern Swinger
Wannabe You were right. From 1 Sep 13, all officer entrants including UY go by these rules:

6632. Promotion up to Lieutenant RN pre and post 1 Sep 13 - Direct Entry Warfare, Engineering, Logistics and Medical Services Officers)
a. From 1 Sep 13. Regardless of an individual's age or educational qualifications held on entry, all Direct Entry Warfare, Engineer and Logistics officers will join BRNC Dartmouth as a Midshipman. On completion of 12 months' service from their date of entry, officers who have successfully completed Initial Naval Training (Officers) (INT(O)) will be promoted to Sub Lieutenant. Individuals who fail to complete INT(O) within a year of joining the RN will not be promoted at this point and, instead, will become eligible for confirmation as a Sub Lieutenant once the training has been completed successfully (see Para 6641 for the rules relating to backdated awards of pay and seniority). Thereafter, officers will be eligible for promotion to the rank of Lieutenant on attaining 30 months' seniority as a Sub Lieutenant. Promotion beyond the rank of Lieutenant is by selection.


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DruAde

Lantern Swinger
yep I can see the paragraph now. Fook thats harsh. What about SUY ? They cant be midshipmen that would be totaly BS.

chapter 66-34
 
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cjg375

Lantern Swinger
From BR3 Ch 50 all SUY join BRNC as SLt with some seniority based on their final rating rank. So no they don't get dropped to middie.


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