No 9s v ROPs

andym

War Hero
Personally I think you should take some action. But you’ve made yourself clear.
One of the Founding Tenets of ROMFT was that there was to be NO moderation and for 12 years no post has come close to me thinking about binning it or a member.I think that says something about the way we work over there,if the stats were available,I wonder just how many Posts on RR have been removed and how many Members have been Banned.I would think that to have zero posts removed and zero members banned in 12 Years must be some kind of Internet Website Record.If a post offends,let there be comments,but at the end of the day we are all adults and have the choice to either post or not to post.I have found that eventually either the threads fizzle out or the Member moves on,there is no real need of having somebody who has been "appointed" as the Arbiter of Truth and Reason on ROMFT.If somebody posts like a cnut,then its there for everyone to see.
 
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If I may step in here.There has been NO blocking,removal,interference or editing of ANY posts or Members on ROMFT since day one and that was 12 years ago.Not a SINGLE member has been banned in all that time.This Policy WILL continue despite any and all attempts for members to strive to become banned.As it says in the Joining Routine,ANYTHING is permissible as long as it its LEGAL!There is NO "ignore" mechanic on ROMFT,so if you don't get a reaction to your post its either that is a load of bollocks and not worthy of a reply,or members just cant be arsed to reply.ROMFT Members CANNOT be "isolated",I am the ONLY Person on ROMFT that can remove Members,they cant be sent to the naughty step for a period of time being unable to post.There is NO mechanic to restrict what can and cant be seen by Individual Members on ROMFT,i CAN restrict what can be seen but that would apply to ALL Members!So I think that just about covers it I think.Whatever you may think Levers,it aint so!

Dude. Caps lock, much?

Anyway, we only have your word on what gives backstage at ROMFT. As said, it matters little. I will say this, for several hours on multiple browsers yesterday, no new posts appeared on your site to this callsign. And my 'reply' function wasn't available in posts. The fact that you yourself are on here defending this either spells something or other out (i.e. you're rattled by the accusation that you actually have this function) or your site has been hacked. Given one of your fragrant members sent me a PM on there which could be interpreted as a threat ... actually, come to think about it, two messages, as well as his incitement to others commit criminal damage with the intent to endanger life) and you say 'anything goes', I'd say it's open to interpretation.

One of the Founding Tenets of ROMFT was that there was to be NO moderation and for 12 years no post has come close to me thinking about binning it or a member.

No one has asked you to, as far as I can recall. Well, at least I haven't. People have asked for me to be binned however. One, because Slim dragged the dispute on here over there and two, because certain members of a certain timestamp don't seem to be able to accept the Royal Navy has moved on without their 'glory days' stewardship. It's ironic that such supposedly robust individuals have such thin skin, when it comes to someone like me - ostensibly straddling the two eras talked about - comments from an informed position of before and after.

I think that says something about the way we work over there,if the stats were available,I wonder just how many Posts on RR have been removed and how many Members have been Banned.

Well, never mind, eh? What is RRs loss is ROMFTs gain. I don't take pride in warning, then banning members but if they demonstrate overt behaviors against site policy, then that's what moderators are there to do. Don't forget, on this site it says 'Navy Net - Royal Navy Community' up at the top there and there are people who might happen by this site and gauge it's content thus. I'll leave you to work out how that fits in with moderation, turning threads into minority baiting, then turning on the mods who try to stop that and then their exclusion.

I would think that to have zero posts removed and zero members banned in 12 Years must be some kind of Internet Website Record.

Well, give yourselves a pat on the back. Given your posting membership contributions is pretty narrow and from a particularly hollow echo chamber with only AAC and Maxi77 offering countering opinion (and **** me, don't they get some shit, considering they come across as knowledgeable, well-balanced individuals), I'd say you'd be hard pushed to ban anyone for fear of say, having your personal details mined from various sources and stuck up for comment as an act of retaliation or revenge.

If a post offends,let there be comments,but at the end of the day we are all adults and have the choice to either post or not to post.I have found that eventually either the threads fizzle out or the Member moves on,there is no real need of having somebody who has been "appointed" as the Arbiter of Truth and Reason on ROMFT.If somebody posts like a cnut,then its there for everyone to see.

Except on here, when certain opinions are opened up for examination, set against real facts and real data, when people are asked 'why?' and the rationale behind it - especially things like Brexit - it quickly renders down to the uncomfortable topic of people's personal bias and prejudices. Immigrants, gypsies, Big Issue sellers, the unemployed, the disadvantaged. And then, when it becomes unsustainable, we'll then start playing the player, hey, let's look back and get this bastards personal details out, his career, attack the moderator, attack anything else which is effectively offside (like my wife, what next ... my deceased daughter? That is somewhere on here as well). It's a common tactic and evidently so on ROMFT. So, again, congratulate yourself on that. You must be proud to be in and amongst such vindictive and mendacious company. Weaponising personal details is something even I could do, relatively easily. I might be many things, but I am not like that.

Andy, I've had discussions with site admin about my role and conduct on here and where Slim and Sumo are concerned, maybe I could have reined in the vitriol a tad. But they both have had form for running roughshod on here and now they are gone. They belong to you now on your free-for-all supposedly matelot-representative site which is anything but really. There's a lot of old men on there who have questionable mindsets, opinions and intents and precious little which represents anything I know of in dark blue today. And yes, I was over in Portsmouth Naval Base today, on a ship, with jack and jenny and contractors, doing my job. No one talks about or gives a fat one about history, let alone failed, antediluvian old chimps who haven't worn uniform in donkeys years and know nowt about the RN, fomenting caustic 'bants' on some dark corner of the internet.

You're very welcome to your record, and your website. Both are as far from what the navy is about as a cat is to a lawnmower.

levers
 
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andym

War Hero
Well its your right to question the veracity of my claims,if you find that there were posts "unavailable" to you,i can only assume its an issue either with our service Provider that is not UK based and your Internet provider.I know what happens on ROMFT.As for PM's,it is exactly what it says Private,i have NO ability to view members PM's at all and by the same token wouldn't want to.I am on here "defending" my Website due to erroneous posts regarding it on here.Its up to you if you believe me or not but I am not in the habit of telling porkies!
 
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Well its your right to question the veracity of my claims,if you find that there were posts "unavailable" to you,i can only assume its an issue either with our service Provider that is not UK based and your Internet provider.I know what happens on ROMFT.As for PM's,it is exactly what it says Private,i have NO ability to view members PM's at all and by the same token wouldn't want to.I am on here "defending" my Website due to erroneous posts regarding it on here.Its up to you if you believe me or not but I am not in the habit of telling porkies!

What exactly is 'going to Action Stations over there' by the way? You've hinted at some or other 'website war'. Is that a well-adjusted way of dealing with this matter? It seems pretty typical of the attitude over there - tough guys (well into their autumnal, if not winter years) being a bit outspoken about stuff they know little about.

'Attitudes adjusted'. How quaint.

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I thought "attitude adjustment" was a septic term for getting trollied.:oops:

No, it's some internet tough guy over the other side puffing up his elderly frame, like he used to do thirty, forty years ago when the navy was grate and sprogs had the temerity to criticise his insecure presence. Back then, you see, it was seen as business as usual brutalising fellow matelots in the 'survival of the fittest'/'Lord of the Flies'-esque nightmare scenario.

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I know it used to happen, and I stopped it happening a couple of times, but I was never a target.

It was commonplace on many ships.

There is (as you can imagine with D&I strategies these days) less occurrence. However, speaking to the older generation, you'd imagine they'd welcome the return of such zoological behaviour.

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huwshpis

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It was commonplace on many ships.

There is (as you can imagine with D&I strategies these days) less occurrence. However, speaking to the older generation, you'd imagine they'd welcome the return of such zoological behaviour.

levers

Would "Darwinian" or "palaeontological" be a more apt substitute?
 

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