News story: Glasgow engineers scope century of submarine innovation

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Govan-based Thales delivered the first submarine periscope, the FY1, to the submarine M3 in late summer 1917. Since then, every class of RN submarine has been fitted with a periscope or optronics mast designed and built by Thales’ engineers in Glasgow.

Today Thales’ state-of-the-art optronics masts support submarines navigation, warfare and communications systems, including provide thermal imaging and night vision capabilities. The masts can complete a full 360° sweep of the horizon, looking for potential threats, in only a few seconds, providing high definition images of the battle space to commanders before they are detected by an adversary.

Defence Procurement Minister, Harriett Baldwin said:


This anniversary marks a proud record of Scottish engineering contributing directly to UK defence and national security by providing the eyes and ears for our nuclear deterrent and attack submarines.

Generations of highly skilled engineers across Scotland have applied battle winning technologies to meet the needs of their UK armed forces, as well as exporting their innovations to dozens of navies around the world.

Royal Navy submarine M3 was fitted with the first FY1 No.1 periscope.
Victor Chavez, CEO, Thales UK, added:


Arguably our greatest single innovation was introducing a night vision capability to allow submarines to navigate and gather intelligence 24/7.

However, our latest full remote control, non-hull penetrating optronics systems give naval architects more design flexibility by not restricting them to co-locating the fin and the control room via a 50ft long periscope. These options, combined with the digital inboard control and display system, provide commanders with a leap forward in submarine capability.

Optronics masts are electronic imaging systems and do not penetrate a submarine’s hull, but are contained in the conning tower or ‘fin’. They are fitted to all seven of the new Astute-class submarines, the first three of which are already in service from HM Naval Base Clyde.

Thales are currently bidding competitively to have their optronics masts procured for the BAE Systems Maritime build of four new Dreadnought nuclear deterrent submarines which will come into service in the 2030s. The company will conduct sea trials of their latest mast in 2018.


Defence Minister Harriett Baldwin speaking at Thales today.

Thales’ site at Glasgow has 129 years heritage and currently employs 600 people, mainly very highly skilled technical and engineering jobs, designing and building optronics systems for the Royal Navy, Army and Royal Air Force.

From 2020 Scotland’s HM Naval Base Clyde will be home to the entire UK Submarine Service of seven hunter killer and four deterrent submarines.

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Bollocks! Thales as I recall is a relatively new (20 years?) French company. It would have been nice if they could have acknowledged Barr and Stroud's existence (a century ago.....) somewhere in all the mutual backslapping.
 

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And another thing: there was a worth keeping commemorative publication from Thales dished out to attendees which paid due respect to the legacy of Barr and Stroud.
 
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And another thing: there was a worth keeping commemorative publication from Thales dished out to attendees which paid due respect to the legacy of Barr and Stroud.
With the greatest of respect, that is irrelevant, as is any acknowledgement of the Barr and Stroud pedigree. The MoD news release first paragraph simply contains two statements which are patently untrue:

"Govan-based Thales delivered the first submarine periscope, the FY1, to the submarine M3 in late summer 1917."

" Since then, every class of RN submarine has been fitted with a periscope or optronics mast designed and built by Thales’ engineers in Glasgow."

Although Thales' history may have taken over the legacies of other companies, Thales as Thales did not exist - as Sonar-Bender has said - until relatively recently.

It's a bit like claiming that Panavia built the Supermarine Spitfire and Messerschmitt Bf109.
 
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Thanks, Seadog. The worrying bit is that MoD apparently didn't when the news release was checked before being issued.........

Er, it was checked, wasn't it? I mean, it wasn't just a Thales puff with a ministerial quote added for good measure? A clue might be in the so-called "news"release:

"Thales are currently bidding competitively to have their optronics masts procured for the BAE Systems Maritime build of four new Dreadnought nuclear deterrent submarines which will come into service in the 2030s."

If MoD hopes to retain any credibility with the media, it should look hard at what might be perceived as abuse of the news release system.
 

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