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News story: Admiral Zambellas new First Sea Lord

busterbroon

Lantern Swinger
He was my last boss in the mob at NATO headquarters in Northwood - never saw him once if I'm being honest

He also came on the bulwark for a chat before the redundancies had been announced and he is very pro less forces and more work

But Stanhope signed my valedictory so might plonk it on eBay :p
 
Knew him when he was driving HMS Argyll in the late 90s I was seariding I can honestly say it was one of the unhappiest ships I ever rode, with one exception, HMS Somerset. Seems to me he's the perfect man for the 1SLs - job couldn't give a fcuk about the lads and lasses

Which was an interesting ship to be in, and quite possibly the worst experience of my time in the mob. Mind, I was only on it for 2 weeks but it did coincide with the conclusion of the "festivities" (I joined in Civitavecchia with SWO DevFlot and the SIB) so in many ways could have been better timed.
 
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Which was an interesting ship to be in, and quite possibly the worst experience of my time in the mob. Mind, I was only on it for 2 weeks but it did coincide with the conclusion of the "festivities" (I joined in Civitavecchia with SWO DevFlot and the SIB) so in many ways could have been better timed.
Probably was on at the same time doing seawolf firings off Gib the Right Honourable Cock if I'm not mistaken. I think she came back from escorting Lusty through the Gulf straight to DOST she'd been away a few months and he wouldn't let the RAs home for the weekend kept them onboard prepping for Staff Sea Check on the Monday, kinda guy you would follow to the end of the earth - NOT
 
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guestm

Guest
So FAAFLYNAVY, you base your statement that Admiral Zambellas is:
a serious political mover & shaker who's known for his networking skills, if ever there was an ideal candidate to dispose of the new carriers & kill off FAA fixed wing for ever he's your man

On:
The current political thinking, the worsening UK financial situation, the military 2020/25 draw-down & a gut feeling.

Brilliant. Quite, quite brilliant.
 
Somehow George Zambellas responsible for moral, doesn't quiet sit right!

When he was a young Wasp pilot he treated his crewman like shit, arrogant and aloof, obviously destined for big things.
As you can sea from both chests they have eperienced an awful lot of operational activity :wave:
 
Probably was on at the same time doing seawolf firings off Gib the Right Honourable Cock if I'm not mistaken. I think she came back from escorting Lusty through the Gulf straight to DOST she'd been away a few months and he wouldn't let the RAs home for the weekend kept them onboard prepping for Staff Sea Check on the Monday, kinda guy you would follow to the end of the earth - NOT

Unbelievably, no, this was an entirely different skipper - and one that was relieved of his command at Gib: the XO brought her home to Guzz. As a very gash SLt I was supposed to be CO's dog on captain's calls and ended up doing them with a slightly shell-shocked Jimmy. To put the tin lid on it, a couple of days after we called on him, the Cdre BFG killed himself when the SIB came knocking for him. Busy Christmas for SIB was 2004....

Maybe it was just always an unhappy ship....
 

FAAFLYNAVY

Lantern Swinger
You're not being realistic, Drew. Firstly none of us have any idea what senior officers say to politicians in private; secondly please realise that mouthing off to the Press while serving is just as much a disciplinary offence in an admiral as it is in an AB, and thirdly please remember that when a 1SL (Luce) did resign (over the binning of CVA01) it made not a jot of difference.

Sir David Luce resigned in 1966 as a matter of principle & personal belief, it hasn't happened since & I can't see it happening in the future, seniors officers today are promoted/appointed only if they toe their political masters wish list line, & are far too astute to rock the boat.
 
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guestm

Guest
Sir David Luce resigned in 1966 as a matter of principle & personal belief, it hasn't happened since & I can't see it happening in the future, seniors officers today are promoted/appointed only if they toe their political masters wish list line, & are far too astute to rock the boat.

Again, you're very clued in for someone who has been out the mob 30 years.
 

Seadog

War Hero
Moderator
Sir David Luce resigned in 1966 as a matter of principle & personal belief, it hasn't happened since & I can't see it happening in the future, seniors officers today are promoted/appointed only if they toe their political masters wish list line, & are far too astute to rock the boat.

Just over ten years ago, the then CDS ( Admiral Boyce) was rocking the boat, seeking assurances regarding the legality of TELIC. More recently, General Dannett rocked a boat or two, so to speak. The widely held belief that pensions of mouthy officers may be forfeit is bogus. Both remain on their service's active lists, both are in the Lords.

Whether or not this 1SL will rock any boats remains to be seen. The fewer boats we have, the fewer anyone can rock.
 

Seaweed

War Hero
Book Reviewer
A pension is technically withheld pay. It cannot be taken away as an act of spite by the Govt. The only hold Govt has over 1SL is whether or not he will be made CDS or what else is on offer afterwards (but it is probably pretty obvious who the next CDS is going to be anyway). If I were SecDef I would make it clear on offering the 1SL job that it involved running the Navy within its allocated budget, and accepting that the decisions on QE/PoW/F35 are done and dusted (atrocious as the VSTOL/F35B decison seems to bystander Seaweed).

One does wonder how many 2 & 3 star officers have looked at what the next step could be, decided it is all kicks and no ha'pence, and walked - different when there were CinC-ships on offer etc.

Personally I am always mystified that men with what seem to me to be decent pensions bother to keep grinding on, but then I have never felt the need to be numbered among the Great and Good. Just as if I were a millionaire I would have not the least idea what to spend it all on.

WS has it:
Who doth ambition shun
And loves to live i' the sun
Seeking the food he eats
And pleased with what he gets
Come hither, come hither, come hither
Here shall we see
No enemy
But winter and rough weather
 

sgtpepperband

War Hero
Book Reviewer
...seniors officers today are promoted/appointed only if they toe their political masters wish list line...

The same could be said for anybody in the Armed Forces, regardless of rank. Anyway, please enlighten us on the brilliant and groundbreaking changes you made to service conditions and policy when (if?) you served..? :?
 

Purple_twiglet

War Hero
Moderator
I've seen senior officers speak frankly to politicians in private. It does happen, and you might be surprised at what is said.
The problem is that the politicians have a habit of not listening...
 

drewfester

Lantern Swinger
Seriously? Which navy are you in?

Honestly Monty (and Seadog) I have never heard of him until the intranet page said he'd taken over. And no I am not taking the piss!

Feel I should maybe know who's in charge but I didn't Doesn't make me a bad person though

When is he making the wets?? Better hurry as I leave soon :):)
 

jacko3

Banned
Shabani and young George

Again, you're very clued in for someone who has been out the mob 30 years.
My wife taught the young George at Shabani Primary School in the early 60's.
Shabani, in Colonial Racist Southern Rhodesia ,was a dreadful asbestos mining town where his Greek (well one was Greek)parents lived.
She's sorting through some photographs and, should she find any of the young rascal in his shorts and straw boater, she will publish them.
 
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