New Branch Names

#61
So WHAT was wrong with Stokers, Deckapes and Greenies in the first place anyway - thats what you is, what you does and as long as you gets paid for the job who gives a 5h1t?

When you gets down to it there only ever was Stokers and Deckapes anyway - the rest are offshoots - Greenie? - Stoker: Cook? - Deckape (kindoff) Steward? - the Same: Sparker? - Deckape (edumicated?)! Same with the Officers Stokers and Deckapes!! Can't see the problem! you either wore coloured bands (Purple, Red, Orange, White etc) or Nothing! Nothing was of course your Real Officer the coloured bits indicated secondary functions (not fully capable) Standing by for incoming!

Better to waste the money on something useful, you know like shells!? or ships?!
 
#62
So we're differentiating between surface and sub-surface rates of the same trades, just like the Elmers do: next thing you know, there'll be pins for being "surface warfare" as opposed to "submariners". Our submarine cousins from across the pond had a name for them - CBDs - "Cry Baby Dolphins" - better not say anymore, in case someone at the MoD might think this is a good idea - if they already haven't.
 

CWNG

Lantern Swinger
#63
I know that there are some SR's left but I thought they had been swollowed up by the MET boys in the new HM branch?

As long as they leave the AC's alone we'll be alright! I suppose they could rename the AC to

Aviation Weapon Director (Tactical) !! How much do I get for that one??
(I want to copywrite that before someone at Admiralty does)
 
#64
CWNG said:
I know that there are some SR's left but I thought they had been swollowed up by the MET boys in the new HM branch?

As long as they leave the AC's alone we'll be alright! I suppose they could rename the AC to

Aviation Weapon Director (Tactical) !! How much do I get for that one??
(I want to copywrite that before someone at Admiralty does)
F&*K All, Avoiding Action has already got it sorted. Aviation Weapon Director (Tactical). Why bracket Tactical what other option is there...Aviation Weapon Director(Non-Tactical) that does'nt make any sense. Aircraft Controller...simple but effective, like most of the branch members!
 

oberon

Lantern Swinger
#65
TattooDog said:
Seaman Specialist SEA
(Upper deck stuff, Tactical Comms etc)
Specs doing Tac Comms like flashing light? Is it still a sideways entry branch? Take it the WS lot still are dabbers at heart?
 
#66
TattooDog said:
Lamri said:
Guys, look i'm NOT just being argumentative here, honest!
I still have my branch badge on, I will still have it on in just over 3 years when I leave the mob. I have preserved rights like lots of older PO's.
I will not ever be a POET in any book. I will only get drafted to POMEM(L) billets, not POET(ME) ie POMEM ANY billets. I will remain a POMEM(L). Read the rules, I have ;)
Lamri, I'm not saying your badge will be torn off - I know what the RNTMs say. Yes, you will still have your Pommie badges, but to the RN and the MOD, you will be considered an ET as the billets and opportunities will disappear after Dec 08.

The fact that you don't want to be part of the new structure doesn't matter these days - the WEMs, Seaman Gunners, ROs etc found that out.

Edited for spelling Seaman wrong - Duh!

Vesting day came and went and with it went the WSM and back to my roots I did go and made it to the height of CWEM(O) Long live the WEM's
 
#67
Having my usual perusal of Arrse, and found that, apparently, one of the Signal ranks is to be/ has been renamed 'Yeoman of Signals' -- CY perhaps ??

Is this the start of a combined Armed Forces ?

:confused:
 
#68
Yeoman meaning Keeper of something i.e. Nav's Yeoman (keeper of Navigators Instruments).

Keeper of Signals. So possible they might call em that lol

May well more heading that way
 
#69
RSigs have had YofS for years.

It's a comms management role, more like our own RS rather than CY. The usual route is to join as a signaller, specialise as an operator then at Sergeant opt for YofS selection. YofS are appointed as SSgt for a couple of years before picking up WO2.

I'm not in the picture, is there some talk of restructuring the corps or something?
 
#70
Not sure Karma, was just doing my usual looksee, and came across this titbit.
Thought as they have changed the Naval branches titles so much, that MoD were now dabbling with the Squaddies.

Maybe GCO/BCO can point you further ?

:)
 
#72
Tiffs still exist. They nolonger recruit but because of career path management those who are WE/MEA's remain so until promotion to PO.
Upon promotion to PO they will become POET(WE/ME)(A), the (A) to denote that they were a "source branch" Artificer.

As an LWEA of four years (courtesy of our esteemed medical branch!) I wait with bated breath for the day they magic wand me just to bring me into line with the rst of my branch.

WE's always outnumbered. Never outgunned!

EDIT:JUST REALISED THAT I HADN'T REACHED THE END OF THE THREAD. BELAY THE LAST.
 
#74
I'm amazed that Able Seaman aren't called Seaman Executive Assistants (SEA) and CTs Communication Artificer Technicians (CAT).

Lamri, to me you'll always be a PO Stoker, er, but I mustn't get you muddled up with The PO Stoker. :confused: :)
 
#75
Nutty said:
FlagWagger said:
ANGWISH said:
When i left the mob i was an RO1(T), what would that be in this modern mumbo jumbo??
Cheres 8)
Depends on which way you jumped when Tactical was subsumed into the OM(C) concept. You could have remained a source branch communicator foregoing all chances of advancement and stayed as an RO1(T) to the end of your career (are there any old-style source branch communicators left?) or you could have taken the option to jump to the Warfare branch. Assuming that you'd gone into the Warfare OM branch you'd have subsequently been given the option to become CIS (effectively the old-school sparker with computery things) or to become a member of the new QM Seaman Spec responsible for all aspects of bridge work, e.g. helm, lookout, signals, tea-boy, etc. :)
Pusser must of got me really cheap then in 61 being both Seaman and Tatical Spec. I could handle boats, splice steel wire rope, read flashing morse, rig tows, sheer legs, tie knots lay out and complete RAS's, Anchor and moor warships etc. as well as operated AS plots, LOP plots, Back Plots, Correct Charts and navigational publications, operate all types of search radars and give continous and active reports, inform OOW with CPA's of other surface contacts. Log aircraft R/T nets. Record either upside down or back to front written information for display to command etc. make tea, steer the ship, do look out, life bouy ghost, sea boats crew and make proper Kye.

Is it a modern sailor has much more to do or are just expected to do less.

Nutty :rambo:
Surely those are specialist Steward/Cook jobs requiring the City & Guilds Beveridge Making Course (Basic)? How could untrained people make tea / coffee / kye? o_O
 
#76
navyeo60 said:
[quote="Nutty

Pusser must of got me really cheap then in 61 being both Seaman and Tatical Spec. I could handle boats, splice steel wire rope, read flashing morse, rig tows, sheer legs, tie knots lay out and complete RAS's, Anchor and moor warships etc. as well as operated AS plots, LOP plots, Back Plots, Correct Charts and navigational publications, operate all types of search radars and give continous and active reports, inform OOW with CPA's of other surface contacts. Log aircraft R/T nets. Record either upside down or back to front written information for display to command etc. make tea, steer the ship, do look out, life bouy ghost, sea boats crew and make proper Kye.

Is it a modern sailor has much more to do or are just expected to do less.

Nutty :rambo:
And we even found time to drink our tots Nutty :thumright:[/quote]

I think its that the crews are smaller now on ships. So they want to have people who know there job inside out. Rather than a jack of all trades master of none.
Not saying it actually works like this though.
 
#77
Scrinson said:
Tiffs still exist. They nolonger recruit but because of career path management those who are WE/MEA's remain so until promotion to PO.
Upon promotion to PO they will become POET(WE/ME)(A), the (A) to denote that they were a "source branch" Artificer.

As an LWEA of four years (courtesy of our esteemed medical branch!) I wait with bated breath for the day they magic wand me just to bring me into line with the rst of my branch.

WE's always outnumbered. Never outgunned!

EDIT:JUST REALISED THAT I HADN'T REACHED THE END OF THE THREAD. BELAY THE LAST.


The (A) doesn't appear until you're a Chief and it's not to signify you were a tiff, it's for JPA purposes so that you stop getting incremental pay rises when you reach level 7.
 
#78
[/quote] Take it the WS lot still are dabbers at heart?[/quote]

The WS branch don't do seamanship like the old OPS Dept. did, thats what the SEA Specialist branch are for. saying that if the buffer requires extra hands on the upper deck he'll go for the WS people first
 
#80
In 1959 I was JEM2 - Junior Electrical Mechanic 2nd class
then JEM1, EM2, EM1, ALEM - Acting Leading Electrical Mechanic, then LEM.
then APOEL - Acting Petty Officer Electrician then POEL. Then it all started to go wrong....POOEL - Petty Officer Ordnance Electrician, then POOEL(L) - Petty Officer Ordnance Electrician (Electrics) as POOEL(O) - Petty Officer Ordnance Electrician (Ordnance). I was so p*ssed off then I came outside in 1970. Since then I've been a central heating Mechanic, heating engineer, an electrician, approved electrician, Houseparent, Residential Social worker, social worker, counsellor, Churchwarden and and all round good guy (Pain in the *rse say's my missus) but I usually answer to George. Or Freddie to my missus.
Name, Label, Title, Nom de Plume.........F* Kin ell' What's in a name? Said Shakespeare..............Lots and Lots if you listen to these fellas and Girls

Regards :w00t: :w00t:
 
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