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Navigator's Yeoman

Gombear

War Hero
I believe this job still exists in the RN. I was wondering what branch Navigator’s Yeomen are taken from nowadays. It used to be from the Radar Plotters in the Seaman branch, and the course was taken at Dryad.
It was a specialisation in its own right and what you did in normal working hours.

Are Rotring technical pens with violet ink still used to do chart corrections? Come to think of it do you use charts or is it all on computer now?

Also what about star sights (not in the romantic sense) with the Navigating Officer does that happen or is it all GPS?

During a RAS or when SSD were closed up for entering harbour does the Nav’s Yeo still time and record orders and replies to and from the wheelhouse and engine room?

If you can find the time, I would appreciate some info from any serving Navigator’s Yeomen.
 

Guns

War Hero
Moderator
The NavYeo is a TEM (Temporary Employment Module) so you will have a number of AB(SEA) who have the qualification by line number. It is a rotation job and no longer Blue Card.

With WECDIS (the new electronic navigation system) you only have very limited Chart corrections to do (the get you home folio for example) but the majority of the work is Pilots, other books and equipment maintenance. As far as the charts themselves well just throw in the new CDROM. Not strictly true but you get my drift.

Now on the might LPD the RM Nav Yeo has all the (and that is 8 folios) charts to do as well as the books so they are quite busy.

At Specials etc the Nav Yeo will faithfully stand by the Echo Sounder calling out the depth.

Star sights etc tends to be the Navs and some of the YOs doing their taskbooks.
 

Gombear

War Hero
Thanks for the info Guns, much appreciated.

Rotation job?, No blue card eh?

My NO said it was the most important job in the Royal Navy.
Lying sod.
 
Gombear said:
I believe this job still exists in the RN. I was wondering what branch Navigator’s Yeomen are taken from nowadays. It used to be from the Radar Plotters in the Seaman branch, and the course was taken at Dryad.
It was a specialisation in its own right and what you did in normal working hours.

Are Rotring technical pens with violet ink still used to do chart corrections? Come to think of it do you use charts or is it all on computer now?

Also what about star sights (not in the romantic sense) with the Navigating Officer does that happen or is it all GPS?

During a RAS or when SSD were closed up for entering harbour does the Nav’s Yeo still time and record orders and replies to and from the wheelhouse and engine room?

If you can find the time, I would appreciate some info from any serving Navigator’s Yeomen.
They were gash hand jobs. The Coder(Ed) the Photographer on vessels smaller than cruisers. The Met chappie on board for something specific then with time on his hands.
All, or any, could have been Navigators' Yeomen. On larger vessels, as gash hands, they may well have found themselves a Padre's yeoman
 
Read the book "Stone Frigate" all about HMS DRAKE during WW2 and the guys who would do anything not to go to the sharp end - some ABs stayed ashore throughout the entire war!! Now that is a blue card.
 
stan_the_man said:
Read the book "Stone Frigate" all about HMS DRAKE during WW2 and the guys who would do anything not to go to the sharp end - some ABs stayed ashore throughout the entire war!! Now that is a blue card.
I'm a Barrack Stanchion and I've been to Jago's Mansion -----
 
They were gash hand jobs. The Coder(Ed) the Photographer on vessels smaller than cruisers. The Met chappie on board for something specific then with time on his hands.
All, or any, could have been Navigators' Yeomen. On larger vessels, as gash hands, they may well have found themselves a Padre's yeoman

They certainly were'nt gash hands in my Day, people who implied this usually knew nothing about Navigation, Pilotage or Notice to Mariners etc.
It certainly put me ahead of the pack when taking my RYA Yachtmaster Offshore exam.
 

tommo

War Hero
Warfare Specs and Sea Specs are nav's yeo's.

As guns says no longer blue card. I miss those times when I did nav's yeo


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Kev73

Midshipman
I believe this job still exists in the RN. I was wondering what branch Navigator’s Yeomen are taken from nowadays. It used to be from the Radar Plotters in the Seaman branch, and the course was taken at Dryad.
It was a specialisation in its own right and what you did in normal working hours.

Are Rotring technical pens with violet ink still used to do chart corrections? Come to think of it do you use charts or is it all on computer now?

Also what about star sights (not in the romantic sense) with the Navigating Officer does that happen or is it all GPS?

During a RAS or when SSD were closed up for entering harbour does the Nav’s Yeo still time and record orders and replies to and from the wheelhouse and engine room?

If you can find the time, I would appreciate some info from any serving Navigator’s Yeomen.

I was Nav Yeo on the Guernsey. We did our training at Mercury (my course was during the world cup '90 in Italy)

on the Guernsey the job was semi blue card... I had to keep watches at sea but when along side I only did duty if they were short (lads on leave etc)

you got to know most of the other NavYeo's and it was a good reason to have a few call rounds.

the Navi on the Guernsey was spot on... when along side in Rosyth, if i cracked out all my corrections (working extra hours) he would grant me extended weekends.
 
I was a Navigators Yeoman. I was an AB sonar on board river class doing Northern Ireland patrol. Hard work and also doing Navs Yeo so definitely no blue card. Then on the type 23 on Marlborough I was still an AB but on Iron Duke a Leading Seaman and Acting PO again no Blue Card but I was given leeway when updates came in. Blue Card died a death roughly when the 42s went and 23 type manpower stretched things.
Hope this helps
 

Union Jack

Lantern Swinger
I recall being told about the sailor in a nameless flagship going on a bender in Belfast, following which he went on the run and pawned a whole lot of kit from the ship, including the zigzag clock, used in pre nuclear submarine days to control zigzag procedures for ships in formation.

Fortunately - but perhaps not for the sailor concerned - the police tracked down the pawnshop and all items were duly returned before we sailed on a NATO exercise. Less fortunately, when the exercise started and with the flagship controlling the chosen procedure signalled to all ships, havoc ensued because every other vessel but the flagship appeared to be on completely the wrong course at the wrong time, with angry signals flying consequently in all directions from the flagship.

Eventually, the flagship's Nav Yeo saved the day before any collisions occurred, but how? He realised that, as a result of the rough treatment the zigzag clock had evidently received during its brief "run shore" in Belfast, it was running several minutes slow going from minute 30 to minute 60 and several minutes fast going from minute zero to minute 30!:eek:

No idea whether the Nav Yeo concerned had a blue card, but he certainly deserved one.:cool:

Jack
 

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