Navel Airman or Communication and Information Specialist?

#1
Hi everyone,

As I have said before I have my medical soon and I applied to become a CIS but was also offered a few other jobs. One of them was Navel Airman.

I am not sure which one to pick as they both appeal to me and I need some help to decide. With which one would I get to see more of the world and do more? And which is better paid?

Any advice please?

Thanks
 
#2
Re: Navel Airman or Communication and Information Specialist

RNCIS said:
Hi everyone,

As I have said before I have my medical soon and I applied to become a CIS but was also offered a few other jobs. One of them was Navel Airman.

I am not sure which one to pick as they both appeal to me and I need some help to decide. With which one would I get to see more of the world and do more? And which is better paid?

Any advice please?

Thanks
With your level of education the sky is the limit. Start on the belly-button patrol FFS
 

slim

War Hero
#4
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At first I thought being a CIS must be really demanding educationally. Then I read the job description :tp:
Just another dabber.
 

Bawsack

Lantern Swinger
#5
I'm a PO(CISSM) and is nothing like a dabber, it is Network management, IT security, Web development amongst other things.

Do it well and it will set you up for a decent job when you leave.

If you are an IT geek then its probably the job for you.
 

slim

War Hero
#6
Bawsack said:
I'm a PO(CISSM) and is nothing like a dabber, it is Network management, IT security, Web development amongst other things.

Do it well and it will set you up for a decent job when you leave.

If you are an IT geek then its probably the job for you.
So does it equate in any way to the RO and RS of the old navy?
 

Bawsack

Lantern Swinger
#8
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It is the same job as the old RO/RS, have held both badges :) The major differences being the IT qualifications that you CAN get if you pull your finger out.

IMO it is one of the better jobs to do in the mob these days that will leave you in good stead for when you leave.
 

slim

War Hero
#9
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Bawsack said:
It is the same job as the old RO/RS, have held both badges :) The major differences being the IT qualifications that you CAN get if you pull your finger out.

IMO it is one of the better jobs to do in the mob these days that will leave you in good stead for when you leave.
In that case I apologise for mixing the CIS with the Dabbers.
It would seem that the CIS branch should require a far higher score educationally than the Handler branch.
 
#10
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When I was an RS I was always called POTS, short for Petty Officer Telegraphist, forerunner of Radio Supervisor - so what is the acronym for a PO CIS??? :thumright:
Glad though that the new style includes IT training, remember had to go on high level maths tests to become ADP qualified in the early days of computers.
Even then you could still come out to a decent job.
 
#11
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Bawsack said:
<snip>The major differences being the IT qualifications that you CAN get if you pull your finger out.
</snip>
I'd be interested to know what qualifications these are?

Ian
 
#13
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The major differences being the IT qualifications that you CAN get if you pull your finger out.

What recognised qualifications are these then that can be used outside?

For those who have been out a while, you still do the same job as an RS, you just have extra jobs now administrating networks onboard. Also the comms department is halved, but you don't have the upper deck to worry about anymore.(unless other ships have different routines)
 

Bawsack

Lantern Swinger
#14
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Any recognised IT qualification, not necessarily ones that are issued by pusser, that said you obviously get your ECDL out of it.

Dont know if GS run it the same as us but we run the network onboard and a couple of my guys have won a Herbert Lott for putting things into practice and improving the services available.

As I said it all depends if you are willing to pull your finger out or let the pussers Navystar V4 PJT be an adequate qualification.

My department onboard consists of 3 LH and upto 8 AB's depending on the manpower crisis at the time.

CIS is Communication and Information Systems
 
#15
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Bawsack said:
Dont know if GS run it the same as us but we run the network onboard and a couple of my guys have won a Herbert Lott for putting things into practice and improving the services available.

My department onboard consists of 3 LH and upto 8 AB's depending on the manpower crisis at the time.
Good to hear Herbert Lott still running, (got inscribed tankard somewhere), gives incentive to the lads and at least the RN still has the make-do-and-mend philosophy - not like some of the other services.
 
#16
As a POCIS myself I still havn't received any recognised I.T. qualifications yet. The certificate you get from Collingwood does not count in civvie street. The ECDL is good if you are going into an office job, but not in IT administration. Pusser will not give us decent Civvy qualifications as they know people will qualify and leave as soon as possible.
 

Bawsack

Lantern Swinger
#17
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You wont get them given to you on a plate, I give my guys time off to do either distance learning or day release if they can be spared, it benefits me and the boat in the long run.

As I said earlier a couple of them have received Herbert Lotts for putting things they have learnt of civvie courses into practice.

If you do any sort of IT course and have to provide evidence that you are doing it then you are in an ideal position.

Also a lot of civvy companies insist on experience, what better experience could we have?? You just need to be creative with your CV writing.
 
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