National Monument to the Armed Forces

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  1. The Lottery Fund has turned down a £4.4 mil bid for funding of the proposed National Monument to the Armed Forces, of which almost the same amount has already been raised.

    When will this bunch of unelected pc suits accept that this is not their money to dispense at their whim?

    It is highly unlikely that this government of cronies and hangers-on will ever take any action to correct this unelected body, so perhaps the public (those that actually do care !) should swamp them with letters of complaint.

    The Daily Mail is heading campaign to raise funds, and my contribution is in the post today.
  2. The sentiment is good but a monument to the "Armed Forces" is a little vague I think.

    I think it generalises too much the sacrifices made by each of the forces.

    Just my 2p
  3. I thought the bid was simply too small - A request for a larger amount of money would have been more successful.
  4. chieftiff

    chieftiff War Hero Moderator

    Perhaps MAY possibly MIGHT probably WOULD NOT have been more successful? but definitely not would
  5. I feel the Cenotaph is enough. Anything else should be more local to reflect the servicemen/womens contribution from that area.
  6. I suspect the association of the 'Daily Wail' with the campaign was enough to ensure the lottery goons gave them the push.

  7. Todays Daily Mail front page headlines reads:

    "A Victory for Common Sense"

    Seems that the lottery commission are giving the money now
  8. +1 maty. The Uk forces have given much, and are still doing so, for the safety, security and well-being of this country, our country. The Cenotaph should be and is the centre of National remembrance, if anything the money should go to ex-service assosiations or even to provide a service hospital to care (properly) for those who have put themselves in the line of fire on our behalf and have paid a price and deserve our thanks and care to ensure they can return fully to the country they defend and care for.

    I know I'm preaching to the converted here but, and I am one of those who realise the debt of gratitude that is due to those people, prehaps as we come to the Remembrance period in November we can all put a little more effort into what we can do personally to raise the profile of those who have given much for our benefit.

    thank you for reading

    here endeth the lesson :oops:
  9. I am in two minds with this. I visited Washington a few years back and saw the Vietnam memorial, the Korea memorial and the Law Enforcers memorial. At the time they were building the WW2 memorial. Each of these were very beautifully designed and in tranquil locations, and for me definitiely tugged at my heart strings and school kids make special trips there as part of their curriculae.

    However the cenotaph is a very powerful monument which indeed should be the centre of national remembrance. It is very understated, and very British. But do we not need to do more to raise awareness of the sacirifices made by our Armed Forces? Is a dedicated memorial the way to do this?
  10. I'd like to see a memorial for all the armed forces, true the Cenotaph is a well known, and well respected memorial but you only really get to see it one day of the year. perhaps a national memorial could be opened and celebrated like the yanks do ,have a veterans day or something like that but not on armistice day. Maybe then people would pay a little more respect, if you look at the us they love evrybody that helps keep their country the way it is over here we only get the acknowledgement when it's too late, a repatriation at Brize!
  11. Just wondering off topic for a mo, I was on an RNR course today and we were briefed about an exercise that some of our branch did near san diego. Not only did they get into Busch Gardens and Sea world for nothing on their ID card, but they went to a baseball or football match and over the tannoy was an announcement for all military personnel to stand. The rest of the audience were invited to clap and cheer for the heros! I understand that my Brit colleagues were all a bit embarrassed by te fuss but secretly quite liked the idea of being a hero. THIS is what we should be aiming for and the rest will follow.
  12. Im sure like most towns and villages, i may be wrong , but up here in Lossiemouth there is a memorial , it faces the sea, im sure it would be no hardship to add any other names, i can see the point of a national memorial, which we already have, and i can understand why one for those that have died under any circumstances should be erected. But why not in the city, town , village that they came from, just adding the name lets those that knew him/her grieve with all the rest, its only my opinion, so dont start shouting.
  13. chieftiff

    chieftiff War Hero Moderator

    Hig I agree, I think all towns and villages should erect monuments to the fallen, in fact many have, the one on Plymouth Hoe is stunning and always brings tears to my eyes when visiting, Lossie's is similarly emotional for many.

    But I think a National memorial such as this is long overdue, the losses since WWII need to be brought to the public eye especially round this time of year, they should be remembered. The November Ceremony always reminds us of those who fell in the two Great Wars even though the Cenotaph represents all those who have fallen in Service of their country. Those who died in Suez, Korea, N. Ireland, Malaysia, The Falkland Isles, Iraq, Afghanistan and other conflicts deserve to have their names immortalised, we owe it to them. Putting all in one place makes that Memorial more moving, as it should be.

  14. I believe this Memorial will become part of the National Memorial Arboretum in Staffordshire.

    I think its a good idea as it would give visitors a chance to reflect in tranquil surroundings rather than in company of the Whitehall traffic
  15. ChiefTiff I agree with you entirely and I would add that, I am a regular attender at the cenotaph in London, and even then we do not have time to stop at the memorial,just to stop and ponder the sacrifices made by our comrades in arms. It is, as stated, a very understated monument, but it is in the middle of a very busy road during all, but Rememberance day. This new memorial is a very powerful monument, and in a park like surround, where families and loved one's and friends can sit quietly with their thoughts.
    I certainly support it, and it's location.

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