Muscle Laxity

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  1. Hello all, i was wondering if you can clarify something for me. Basically i have mild muscle laxity in particularly my shoulder and hip joints. However because i have spent the past 2 years intensively training, (physiotherapy, gym and running) to overcome this problem. Will it still make me fail selection for officer training in the navy (weapons system officer), because it is on my medical records.

    Cheers guys
  2. It's knees and elbows we are interested in - you need to be able to lock them in full extension. If you can do that, no problem. If you can't, problem. When I say problem, I mean fail - in any of the 3 Services and any branch.
  3. Oh yeah i can do that easily. Its been a problem in my hips, i was prone to injury but now its not really a problem. Basically can i assume that if its on your medical record and it does not cause you any problems, that the Navy would allow me to join.
  4. Sounds a bit more complex than your original post suggested. The "prone to injury" bit is worrying. You may not assume that if it doesn't cause problems then we will allow you to join.

    If your condition is likely to flare up, especially when you're somewhere that every individual has a specific job (eg fire fighting at sea), then the RN may not be the wisest career choice.

    I'm sorry to say that I have my doubts.
  5. Angrydoc, it sounds like some sort of hypermobility problem though not EhlerDanlos which tends to be global.

    The physio etc will have helped, because increasing the muscle will help to support the joint, similar to that seen in ice hockey players across the pond. However I think this condition can lead to foot and back problems as well as effecting other joints. This is because the connective tissue does not hold the joint stable leading to tendonitis etc.

    Best bet is to ask at the AFCO and they will contact the relevant specialist Maveric. And as with all applications hope for the best whilst preparing for the worst.

  6. P-F

    FYI, the diagnosis per se is not relevant - the symptoms and the potential for complications are. Ehler-Dahnlos is quite rare in the UK, but various hypermobility syndromes are more common. Everyone knows someone who CSM hyperflex a thumb, for example.

    The problem is the increased risk of dislocation and premature arthritis, and the subsequent likelihood of downgrading.

    I actually have decent experience in recruiting conditions, and have come across this issue before. Specialist referral is usually not required.

    RN Medical Officer
    Moderator, Health & Fitness
  7. I also have some experience of hypermobility problems, specifically benign global hypermobility, with recurrant dislocations / sublux of toes, knees, hips and shoulders. The condition also led to tendonitis in both ankles for a little over 5 years and requires orthotics and custom built boots to stabilise it.

    If the OP already has problems then my understanding has always been that the chances are that it will be highlighted at the medical. Despite all the mentions in my med docs this was not the case for me but the specialists I have seen imply that things are a lot tighter now, particularly in view of the £250 per pair for orthotics now that we contract out to civillian podiatrists.

    Once again I find myself apologising because you have assumed that I was trying to undermine your knowledge and experience. Not the case. I am just trying to promote a little caution because even if application is successful, then training may not be.

  8. Many Thanks for the prompt response Guys, its been really helpful. Yeah sorry i was diagnosed with hyper-mobility when i was like 2.

    But it only really affects me when doing long periods of running (45 minutes +) Or when doing specific exercises to do with the hip flexors / abductors (suspected torn labrum.) It is normally a dull ache in both knees and Hips, but has been substantially reduced over the last year, due to physiotherapy.

    Although i should have this fixed when i apply in 3-4 years time, i was just wondering weather, considering the intensity of the training be a particular constraint on my application. Considering that because i want to be a warfare officer in the Navy, it would be more less of an issue, than a combat role in the other branches of the armed forces.
  9. The standards for entry are relatively universal - Warfare Officers are also required to fight fires and run up and down ladders. I am concerned about the fact that you experience pain when you exercise, and that in addition you may also have a torn labrum.

    If the RN is what you want to do then I suggest continuing your current regimen of physio and apply when you are ready. Your AFCO will help you regarding timing. Just be aware that your condition is likely to come up and may well cause significant problems with your application.

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