MPs with experience in HM Forces

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  1. This list comes to you by popular request. The list is available in various formats (MP order, etc) from the House of Commons Information Office, which is my source.

    Army (20)

    John Baron (Conservative) - Captain Royal Regiment of Fusiliers 1984-87
    Richard Benyon (Conservative) - Army 1980-85
    Crispin Blunt (Conservative) - Army Officer 1979-90; Regimental duty 13th/18th Royal Hussars (QMO) in England, Germany and Cyprus
    Rt Hon Iain Duncan Smith (Conservative) - Commissioned, Scots Guards 1975;ADC to Major-General Sir John Acland, KCB, CBE; Commander of Commonwealth Monitoring Force in Zimbabwe 1979-81

    James Gray (Conservative) - Honourable Artillery Company (TA) 1978-84; Member, HAC Court of Assistants 2002-
    Adam Holloway (Conservative) - Commissioned, Grenadier Guards 1987-92
    Eric Joyce (Labour) - Private, Black Watch Regiment 1978-81;Officer 1987-99
    Alan Keen (Labour/Co-operative) - Army service (3 years)
    Mark Lancaster (Conservative) - Officer Royal Engineers 1988-90;Major Royal Engineers (TA) 1990-
    Rt Hon Michael Mates (Conservative) - Army service 1954-74:2nd Lieutenant RUR 1955;Queen's Dragoon Guards, RAC 1961, Major 1967, Lieutenant-Colonel 1973, Resigned commission 1974
    Patrick Mercer (Conservative) - Sherwood Foresters 1975-1999
    Andrew Mitchell (Conservative) - UN Peacekeeping Forces Cyprus: 1st Royal Tank Regiment (SSLC)
    Mike Penning (Conservative) - Soldier, Grenadier Guards 1974-80;RAMC 1980-81
    Andrew Robathan (Conservative) - Regular Army Officer, Coldstream Guards and SAS 1974-89;Rejoined Army for Gulf War January-April 1991
    Hugh Robertson (Conservative) - Army officer The Life Guards, serving in Northern Ireland, Gulf War and Bosnia 1985-95
    Hon Nicholas Soames (Conservative) - Lieutenant, 11th Hussars 1967-72
    Sir Peter Tapsell (Conservative) - Subaltern Army national service in Middle East 1948-50;Royal Sussex Regiment
    David Tredinnick (Conservative) - 2nd Lieutenant Grenadier Guards 1968-71
    Ben Wallace (Conservative) - Army officer, Scots Guards 1990-98:Service in Northern Ireland, Central America, Cyprus, Germany; Intelligence 1994-95
    Sir Nicholas Winterton (Conservative) - Commissioned army national service 14th/20th King's Hussars 1957-59


    Ulster Defence Regiment (1)

    Rt Hon Jeffrey Donaldson (Democratic Unionist Party) - Ulster Defence Regiment 1980-85


    Territorial Army (12)

    Tony Baldry (Conservative) - TA Officer 1971-83; Honorary Colonel RLC(TA)
    Gregory Barker (Conservative) - TA (HAC)
    Julian Brazier, TD (Conservative) - TA 1972-82, 1989-92
    Derek Conway (Conservative) - Territorial Decoration (Territorial Army)
    Mark Francois (Conservative) - TA 1983-89, commissioned 1985
    Dominic Grieve (Conservative) - Territorial Army 1981-83
    Philip Hollobone (Conservative) - Soldier and paratrooper, Territorial Army 1987-95
    Ian Liddell-Grainger (Conservative) - Major Fusiliers TA
    Andrew Selous (Conservative) - TA officer Honourable Artillery Company, Royal Regiment of Fusiliers 1981-94
    Keith Simpson (Conservative) - Honorary Colonel Royal Military Police T.A.
    Desmond Swayne (Conservative) - Major, Territorial Army; also called up to Gulf War II (Major in TA) (June 2003)
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3004920.stm

    Peter Viggers (Conservative) - National service RAF pilot 1956-58;Territorial Army Officer 1962-67


    Royal Air Force (7)

    Joe Benton (Labour) - RAF national service 1955-57
    Colin Challen (Labour) - RAF 1971-74
    John Smith (Labour) - RAF 1967-71
    Dr Bob Spink (Conservative) - RAF 1964-66 (invalided)
    Dr Richard Taylor (Independent) - Medical officer RAF 1961-64
    Peter Viggers (Conservative) - National service RAF pilot 1956-58;Territorial Army Officer 1962-67
    Robert Wareing (Labour) - RAF 1948-50


    Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve (2)

    Ben Chapman (Labour) - Pilot Officer, RAFVR 1959-61
    Gerald Howarth (Conservative) - Commissioned RAFVR 1968


    University Air Squadron (1)

    Tim Yeo (Conservative) - Cambridge University Air Squadron 1964-67


    Royal Navy (2)

    Dr Andrew Murrison (Conservative) - Surgeon Commander Royal Navy 1981-2000; called up as Royal Navy Reservist (Medic) to Gulf War II in September 2003. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/low/england/wiltshire/3100374.stm

    Richard Ottaway (Conservative) - Royal Navy Officer 1961-70


    Royal Naval Reserve (2)

    Dr Julian Lewis (Conservative) - Seaman, Royal Naval Reserve 1979-82
    Dr Andrew Murrison (Conservative) - Surgeon Commander Royal Navy 1981-2000; called up as Royal Navy Reservist (Medic) to Gulf War II in September 2003. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/low/england/wiltshire/3100374.stm


    Foreign Armed Services (1)

    Dr Rudi Vis (Labour) - Dutch armed services 1960-64


    Armed Forces Parliamentary Scheme (Fellowships)

    Rt Hon John Reid (Labour) - Fellow Armed Forces Parliamentary Scheme


    Armed Forces Parliamentary Scheme (Army)

    Dai Havard (Labour) - Member Armed Forces Parliamentary Scheme (Army) 2002
    Stephen O'Brien (Conservative) - Armed Forces Parliamentary Scheme (Army) 2001-03


    Armed Forces Parliamentary Scheme (Navy)

    Stephen Pound (Labour) - Armed Forces Parliamentary Scheme (Navy)
     
  2. wet_blobby

    wet_blobby War Hero Moderator

    Discounting these fellowship things I make it,

    Conservative - 38
    Labour - 8
    Others - 2

    So thats 48 out of what, 650 ish, roughly 7-8% Not to shabby.

    I wonder what percentage of MP's were CND supporters?

    (Maths was never my thing so the percentages are a complete guess and probably wrong)
     
  3. How does the Armed Forces Parliamentary Scheme give anyone experience "in" the Armed Forces? Quite a few of those listed didn't do very long and they're not old enough to have done National Service, so they presumably didn't like it much!!
     
  4. wet_blobby

    wet_blobby War Hero Moderator

    This looks an interesting story, What happened in the missing years?

    Eric Joyce (Labour) - Private, Black Watch Regiment 1978-81;Officer 1987-99
     
  5. Or University Air Squadron for that matter - or as other posters would say more succinctly ... WTF !! o_O

    Good training for Mess Dress wearing at wardroom - sorry -- Officer's Mess do's. If these 'RAF' types are anything like the ones I knew working for BAe, that's possibly where they learned the trade of troughing

    :)
     
  6. So 50% (4) of the Labour bods were in the RAF. And look at the years! 2 of them were in during the forties and fifties. The labour bods will either be telling stories about SADUSEA - Song And Dance Unit: SouthEast Asia - or they will be scaring the bejeebas off of their young backbenchers by telling them tales of rough RM types cutting people's ears off. At least the Cons have seen more recent service, which to my mind can be just as important.
     
  7. wet_blobby

    wet_blobby War Hero Moderator

    Noticed none of them had the balls to join the Corps, still Paddy pantsdown led by example.... :p :safe:
     
  8. Good old paddy, never failed to disappoint!!

    :thumright:
     
  9. Thingy, I forget to thank you for finding and posting the numbers. :)
     
  10. :thumright:
    Watch him Harry he'll want to tickle your arse with a feather as a thank you next!! :thumright:
     
  11. Lol ... As long as it's not the whole chicken :w00t:
     
  12. I had problems posting it - so it might well be an echo. Please could you delete the duplicate? I might tickle you with a feather... then again probably not. :)


    ....Have just deleted myself. Will tickle self with goose quill! :razz:
     
  13. Wasn't Liam Fox in a reserve uniform at one time?
     
  14. Now have a look at how many in the serving government -

    None

    The only couple mentioned hardly finished basic training so can't be counted.

    Mind you could say that about ALL the specialisations they are in -
    How many worked in the job they are doing now before they were MPs -

    again None

    And lets put it another way - How many are '*******' -

    All of them Who is the biggest ****** Brown
     
  15. wet_blobby

    wet_blobby War Hero Moderator

    Mate, dont sit on the fence. Tell us what you really think. No please do, dont shy away. :dwarf:
     
  16. I'd vote for Blobbs anyday. Will you be standing, marching or yomping in the next General Election Blobbs?

    [align=center]Vote for Blobbs! Blobby for PM![/align]
     

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