MPs Keep your noses out !

Discussion in 'Current Affairs' started by KLNA-Cessna-Jockey, Jan 20, 2007.

Welcome to the Navy Net aka Rum Ration

The UK's largest and busiest UNofficial RN website.

The heart of the site is the forum area, including:

  1. Am I out of order, or is Tessa Jowell MP ?

    Ms Jowell is the CULTURE secretary and this morning she has been on the news questioning why the Police (Home Office Department) chose to arrest one of Tony Blair's aides at 0630 as they had received new evidence following her original arrest and nicked her this time, allegedly, for perverting the course of justice (normally means tampering with/concealing evidence or witness interference).

    Just who the hell does Ms Jowell think she is - most MPs are crap at running their own departments, including her, so where does she get the time and right to question the home office.

    Am I missing something here?? If she was questioning why the RN chose to board a boat in the carribean as they suspected drug smuggling was going on I'm sure we wouldn't be happy.
     
  2. Windy Mate they even had (Labour) Lord Putnam on Channel 4 news last night trying to run interferance for her. Surprisingly Jon Snow didn't give him an easy time either.
    I bet her shredder was overheating a while back. Corrupt bstards.
    RoofRat
     
  3. I agree windy mate. It has bugger all to do with her but then part of being an MP is all about self-interest. Perhaps she feels this is a way to get her name in the media for showing an interest in areas outside her baliwick. It is extremely unlikely that she would have considered the fact that she was undermining the police in the conduct of their duties.

    Maybe she has something to hide?

    SF
     
  4. The whole waste of public money fiasco will come to nowt, the majority of cops could not catch a cold and the CPS are not much better.
     
  5. BBC news

    It's a misquote of what was said on ''Any Questions'' last night. The question was asked about whether the net was closing on President Tony with the arrest of one of his staff and she gave a fairly innocuous, if pretty nervous, answer.

    She was challenged on whether she thought the time of the arrest was wrong but moved her answer to something else and didn't say anything about the that aspect.

    edited for typo
     
  6. Well, not to put any points in favour of the Beloved Leader, but her position as a cabinet minister and senior member of the Labour party are separate from that of Culture Secretary and, as such, do make her not an inappropriate choice to be wheeled into the public limelight, regardless of her portfolio.

    Of course, the fact that she's a dribbling moose with all the presence of a sleeping three year old in an opera house seems to have totally bypassed the 'communications' staff at the Fuhrerbunker.
     
  7. Had the police investigation not been dealing with the Establishment I should have thought that they would have seized all the Labour (& Conservative) Party's computers and paper files and arrested all the key figures at the same time for questioning - to prevent anyone cooking up any alibis, though I'm sure that hasn't happened here. That way this investigation might have been cleared up faster, prosecutions proceeded with (nothwithstanding the need for a Labour Minister - the DPP - to authorise the prosecutions in the public interest - erm (seperation of powers?)) - and those who participated in any wrongdoing or inchoate crimes would now be undergoing some variety of middle-class punishment: probably claiming they all had that kind of senile dementia that is only cured by being let out of prison (Dementia criminalis - opportunists dementia). This scenario was never going to happen. Realpolitik!
     
  8. Methinks the ministers are gettig a tad worried. It seems the police are doing a proper job for a change. Although I think a dawn raid was a bit OTT. More power to the fuzz's evening alls!
     
  9. Hopefully the writing is on the wall for these jokers !
     
  10. Aha,looks like the Clock has started to run down for TB!
     
  11. Tessa Jowls lost all credibility when she did a tactical binning of her husband to save her position and reduce the flak heading towards St.Tone.
     
  12. I can't believe that they are complaining about the early morning call... would they have preferred it to happen at Downing Street in front of the cameras?
     
  13. Seadog

    Seadog War Hero Moderator

    Police Federation rep said the same thing on the BBC. Added that the arrest should be made at the property they want to search; her gaff. And another thing (my view), zero dark hundred is a good time to do scheduled arrests, frees more coppers for patrols during the day. Imagine, we'd like to arrest you and we were just wondering what time would be convenient for you?

    Neu Arbeit are being a bit precious about the woman's integrity. She's one of us, squeaky clean. Didn't they say that about David Blindgit (adjusted for gender?)
     
  14. S-B

    As a person who instigated or took place in many a dawn raid and arrest th logic is simple. Unless you are prepared to have the suspect attend the Police Station or you are prepared to march into, lets say MOD at 10.30 am and arrest Admiral XXXX who is in the middle of a meeting and you cannot even guarantee he will even be in the building, you have no option than to go to the premises you believe you will find them, between 5am and 7 am when you know they will be at home and not on the way to work. This will then give you the complete normal working hours day to arrange Solicitors and any other persons required, perhaps interpreters and start to interview the suspect. Do it at 8 pm and by the time the Custody Officer etc have finished its 11 pm and you have to either allow the suspect 8 hours sleep or be accused of interviewing in the middle of the night,

    "Oppressive Gestapo tactics by yourself Officer"


    will be laid at your door by a £1,00,000 a year, barrister at Court.

    "Please explain in words of "Yes or "No"

    I have never climbed Snowdon so I don't tell a mountaineer how to get up Everest

    Nutty
     
  15. It also has a tremendously unsettling effect, you manage to get hold of them before they're ready to face the world; potentially before a shower, breakfast etc so as an interviewer you have a psychological advantage.

    OK, that's all subject to where she lives, when I was working in London I was standing on the platform at 0630.....
     
  16. Well said Nutty, In this case I fear the girly is carrying the can for the Sainted leader and the rest of his gang who are all (probably) Guilty as sin!

    Anyway people t'aint the police we should be kicking, (it may surprise you to know that we're on the same side) they tend to do a sensible job; it's the b****** in the CPS (unwashed scroats) who mess the job up with their views on 'uman rights i.e. "the bad b******** got lots the victim a'int, he's already a victim so he's got to be a looser, right"
     
  17. I wonder if they will get back together now the main charges against him have been dropped.
     
  18. I have a suspicion one of the reasons for the'dawn raid' was not so much ensuring the little ladywas available, Isuspect even Tones hencemen/women would have turned up for an 'arranged' arrest, I suspect it was as much to try to get documentary stuff which shemay well have shredded if alerted beforehand.
     
  19. As I posted this last night at 10.06 pm may I now quote the story on the front page of the Sunday Times which I read at 7.30 am Sunday:

    Quoute Sunday Times 21st Jan 2007

    "Police sources say they are following the same procedures as they would in any investigation. One source said that Labour ministers should “tread very carefully” in their criticisms when they did not know what the police had found in their inquiries. Sir Chris Fox, the former president of the Association of Chief Police Officers, speaking apparently with the full authority of the Metropolitan police, said the arrest followed normal procedure and was not theatrical at all: “Why do we arrest somebody at 6am? Well, because we know they’ll be in, for a start. Why do we do it at home? Well, because most people will prefer that sort of intervention at home than at work.

    “If they don’t arrest and they invite somebody to the station, let’s just say this person is less than honest . . . then more evidence might disappear." Unquoute:

    Now if its good enough for Sir Christopher Fox then its good enough for Ex. Det. Con. Nutty
     

Share This Page