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MP's Complain over New War Game

Zoidberg

War Hero
Fcuk sake.

There's a rant about a game that's fantasy, yet ARMA2 markets itself (or marketed, I'm not sure if they still do) as a "combat simulator". Was there any row? No.

The ARMA2 standalone expansion pack- Operation Arrowhead- is going to be loosely based on the war in Afghanistan.

Operation Flashpoint: Dragon rising markets itself as "a tactical shooter designed to realistically represent modern infantry combat."

Why the big row over a video game? It's rated 18, and anyone over 18 should have enough sense not to go around shooting Russians whilst pretending that they're Andy McNab.

angrydoc said:
£60 is a bit much to claim on expenses for a game...

It's only £35 from GAME.
 

brigham600

War Hero
The MP's should get along to Sainsburys or ASDA to purchase for £26 or £32 respectively and spend the rest on beer and pizza, file claim next day - job done.
 

(granny)

RIP
Book Reviewer
If the 18 to 35 year olds who play these games want excitement why don't they join the Army and do it for real? Save them a lot of money and they'd be much more useful. The games may be rated 18 but they get into the hands of children who are then de-sensitised to violence. They then think that it's the norm. 'Don't want to go out and play, I've got to kill a few people for fun'. The whole 'game' business is a bit sick to me.
Rant over.
 

hooperjones

Midshipman
Well this game is awesome its not real hence the reason its called a game. I have been lucky enough to have got hold of it a couple of days ago and it really is good. And with regards to kids have you seen the level of violence portrayed on TV every day. Things change wether they should or not remains to be seen ...
 
Playing online i see 8 year olds talking about how he is gonna axe someones head in, thats a 3+ game. So whats the difference?
 

(granny)

RIP
Book Reviewer
Chicogiz said:
Playing online i see 8 year olds talking about how he is gonna axe someones head in, thats a 3+ game. So whats the difference?

Looking at your 'avatar'.... nuff said!
 
(granny) said:
The games may be rated 18 but they get into the hands of children who are then de-sensitised to violence. They then think that it's the norm

That's an aspect of "harmless" games that bothers me, too. I often wonder if some of the hoods taunting the Police and racing round in stolen cars are extending their video skill. Got cracking scores on the game and can't wait to try the real thing. The other aspect is that having numerous "lives" could distort some people's concept of reality.
 

Zoidberg

War Hero
It's a game. It's fake, fiction, not real. I think anyone with an ounce of sense knows that.

I've come to realise that it's always older people that have a problem with video games. Did you ever play soldiers when you were little? I remember running around my garden when I was 5 or 6 (teen) with my friends, pretending to shoot each other with sticks. Is it really any different?

http://www.kidsarmyshop.co.uk/home.html < Surprised nobody's outraged about this!

A shop selling fake (see my first sentence) weapons for children as opposed to a company selling a game for adults.

EDIT: Looking at that site: http://www.kidsarmyshop.co.uk/products/army-toy-guns/camo-ak47.html

"Realistic sound" and "1:1 scale model". A full size replica of an AK-47 that sounds real. I'm sure that'd mess with more heads than a video game.
 
Zoidberg said:
It's a game. It's fake, fiction, not real. I think anyone with an ounce of sense knows that.
quote]

Tim, you have gained more than than that 'ounce of sense' since you first appeared here - and well done for that, keep it up.

Sadly, as we see almost daily, even with newbies etc. at RR, there are too many out there who are missing that ounce.

What used to be sound common sense and sound parental guidance has been swamped by the PC brigade and the relentless erosion of family values. Nanny State is trying - but its an uphill struggle and it should not really fall within their remit anyway.

The recently introduced Citizenship aspect of the National Curriculum has made an encouraging start; but we have a long way to go yet before 'uman rites' and a 'compo culture' are re-balanced with personal and civic responsibilities.

Bring back noblesse oblige.
 
Tim, you’re right; it does assume common sense. Common sense and grasp of reality isn’t as common as you might assume, though. The danger is always that we legislate against the “sensible†for the sake of idiots who may only make up, say, 1% of the population.

Having played cowboys and Indians as a lad (with a fairly convincing toy Colt 44) and modern computer games since, I must say that the computer games are more absorbing and all enveloping. I went for quite a few years without flying and played Combat Flight Sim during that time. It was addictive and I found it had significantly buggered up my real flying skills when I went back to it. I wouldn’t underestimate the degree to which realistic simulations implant themselves in a person’s mind. Example; how can engaging pretend fighters in the air raise your heart rate, make you sweat and leave you elated and shaking when you get your “television†Spitfire parked back on the grass?
 
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