Mosque to be built on World Trade Centre site.

#2
A bit of an insensitive nettle to have to grasp, particularly since Osama is still at large and the Afghanistan and related AQ issue are far from being sorted but it was going to happen at some time given that the USA is, of course, the Land of the Free and a paragon of racial harmony owing to its huge multicultural mix and legendary standards of tolerance for ethnic minorities!!!!!

On a less cynical note - Muslims died in the 9/11 attacks as well as non-Muslims and for every Muslim extremist I am sure you will hundereds or thousands of moderate Muslims who just want to get on with their life in peace. I am pleased to say that I know a good number who despise radicals (of any faith or ethnic grouping) as much as I do

I sympathise with the relatives of victims and it is easy to say that they should not hate all Muslims for the murderous acts of a few extremists. It is also easy for me to say that building a mosque could be seen as a way of mending fences rather than exposing wounds but I was not personally affected by the attacks either in terms of losing loved ones or having to live in the affected community so my ability to be more impartial is not representative of many who were there or thereabouts at the time ... but the thread did ask for "discussion" so that's my two-penneth for what it's worth.
 
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StixJimboRM said:
Why not?

p.s. - is this an actual news story, if so a link would be good, or just you trying to stir things up a bit?
This has been rumbling for months now so is only really a "CA" dit on the basis that planning objections to demolishing the building that could one day make way for the mosque have just been rejected clearing the way for it to happen. Sarah Palin has come out agin it!

A link on the general story follows http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-10846716
 
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StixJimboRM said:
broadside said:
StixJimboRM said:
Why not?

p.s. - is this an actual news story, if so a link would be good, or just you trying to stir things up a bit?
This has been rumbling for months now so is only really a "CA" dit on the basis that planning objections to demolishing the building that could one day make way for the mosque have just been rejected clearing the way for it to happen. Sarah Palin has come out agin it!

A link on the general story follows http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-10846716
First I'd heard of it personally, cheers for the link
STIX = Another SUN reader - Gotcher!! :twisted:



"OUTs are encouraged to read widely but wisely" :wink:
 
#7
It won't happen,the rednecks and the Idaho militia will be stocking up on whatever to destroy it if they do.
All those who now tolerate Obama just,will despise him if he allows it.
As he wants re-election he won't risk it.
If he does I see Hilary jumping on the Jewish/White Christian and Mexican,Cuban. Puerto Rica etc vote[which is very large] Obama may want it but it won't happen.
 
#8
It will happen and it will happen quite quickly:-

New York Clears Ground Zero Mosque Plan


A New York City panel has cleared the way for construction of a mosque and Islamic community center near Ground Zero. On Tuesday, the New York City Landmarks Preservation Commission voted to deny landmark status to an old building on the grounds of the proposed site. The plan had come under opposition from right-wing groups, including the Anti-Defamation League. On Tuesday, New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg praised the vote, calling it a victory for religious freedom.

New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg: "Let us not forget that Muslims were among those murdered on 9/11 and that our Muslim neighbors grieved with us as New Yorkers and as Americans. We would betray our values—and play into our enemies’ hands—if we were to treat Muslims differently than anyone else."
 
#10
You are missing the point Papal,it's not that they can't have a Mosque it's where they have a Mosque that grinds with some people.
Whether it's a justifiable gripe I have no idea and,like another poster, I don't really care.
 
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seafarer1939 said:
You are missing the point Papal,it's not that they can't have a Mosque it's where they have a Mosque that grinds with some people.
Whether it's a justifiable gripe I have no idea and,like another poster, I don't really care.
Seafarer - I noted that aspect, but being as Michael Bloomberg and most New Yorkers seem to approve of the project, I dismissed the Red-Neck noise machine who are simply stirring shite for Bazza O'Bazzarama.

I thought Bloomberg's words were quite good and appropriate.
 
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angrydoc

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It's up to the Muslim community in New York.

If the City prevented a mosque being built, it would be wrong. However, this does not mean that the Muslims have to build a mosque at Ground Zero. If they do, they will be showing little thought to their fellow New Yorkers. Yes, the majority of Muslims are not jihadists, but they should be aware of sensitivities.
 
#15
I've got family in NYC who were there on Sept. 11 and for them it's a very emotional issue. I think allowing it to be built is the right thing to do, but only time will tell whether it will be a good thing or not. The sponsors are saying all the right things right now, but we'll all have to wait and see what they actually do.
 
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Yankee_Sailor said:
I've got family in NYC who were there on Sept. 11 and for them it's a very emotional issue. I think allowing it to be built is the right thing to do, but only time will tell whether it will be a good thing or not. The sponsors are saying all the right things right now, but we'll all have to wait and see what they actually do.
Where have you been Yankee Matelot?

What are you doing in Hawaii? Not searching for Bazza O'Bazzarama's birth certificate perchance :roll:

Good to see you back.
 
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angrydoc said:
It's up to the Muslim community in New York.

If the City prevented a mosque being built, it would be wrong. However, this does not mean that the Muslims have to build a mosque at Ground Zero. If they do, they will be showing little thought to their fellow New Yorkers. Yes, the majority of Muslims are not jihadists, but they should be slaugtered anyway.
Just thought I had better correct your obvious mistake doc.
 

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