More secret files found on train

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  1. sgtpepperband

    sgtpepperband War Hero Moderator Book Reviewer

    From the BBC Website:

    More confidential government files were found on a train earlier this week, it has been revealed.

    The Independent on Sunday says it was handed the documents, which cover fighting global terrorist funding, drugs trafficking and money laundering.

    The files, about a meeting of financial crime experts, were found on the same day as a batch of top secret papers about al-Qaeda were handed to the BBC.

    A Treasury spokesman said the government was "extremely concerned".

    The documents apparently include briefing notes for a meeting of the international Financial Action Task Force (FATF) to be held in 11 Downing Street next week.

    The papers were found on train bound for London Waterloo on 11 June, the same day that another batch of papers relating to intelligence assessments of Iraq and al-Qaeda were handed to the BBC after being left by a senior official on a train.

    BBC political correspondent Laura Kuenssberg said it was uncertain whether the latest documents were also top secret.

    The documents seen by the BBC should not have left Whitehall but it is not yet clear whether the latest files were permitted to have been taken out, our correspondent added.

    "Some of the information is already on the public domain, but another lapse is deeply embarrassing for the government," she said.

    A Treasury spokesman said: "We are extremely concerned about what has happened and we will be taking steps to ensure that it doesn't happen in the future."

    The confidential files were said to include details of how trade and banking systems could be manipulated to finance illicit weapons of mass destruction in Iran.

    They also discussed methods of terrorist funding and the potential fraud of commercial websites and international internet payment systems.

    The Independent on Sunday said it had returned the documents and would not be divulging any details contained in them.

    Two inquires - one by the Cabinet Office, the other by the Metropolitan Police - have been launched into what is the latest in a series of blunders involving sensitive official information.

    Scotland Yard said it was not involved in investigating the latest case.

    Dame Pauline Neville-Jones, Conservative shadow security spokesman, commenting on the latest find of sensitive documents, said: "We've now had eight major breeches that we know of in six months.

    "The government needs to get a grip in order to protect this sort of sensitive information and the British public."

    The FATF conference is due to begin on Monday at the QE2 Conference Centre in Westminster, opposite the Houses of Parliament.

    The FATF was established by the 1989 G7 summit in Paris to spearhead efforts to counter the use of the international financial system by criminals.

    It has since expanded to 34 members.

  2. Kinnell, is nothing safe ? Seems like this is catching - 2 in a week - might go for a walk in the park tomorrow, see what I can find...........
  3. How the hell does this happen. Surely they must have lockable cases to carry there stuff around in?

    How come they're not being told to keep it in the office and take it nowhere.

    Just like we've been told about laptops!!!


  4. You can bet that if it was some RO who left a classified signal on the mess table the poor bugger would have been hung, drawn and quartered by now.

    Different rules for public servants though.
  5. Most Civil Servants are a shower of drunken bums. Sorry if this sounds harsh but my ex-husband was a Serpent for 20 years. The culture of drinking has to be seen to be believed. The older they get and more 'passed over' they feel the worse it is.

    Those who drink to excess are not only damaging themselves but ... oops ... better not moan about drinking you daft lot moan about the loss of the tot and think its great that the lads and lasses let their hair down getting drunk in every port possible ... I despair ... :whew:
  6. I'm sorry GR, but I disagree with you on this. Being inebriated on duty (except with power) is a disciplinary offence. Three of my colleagues have been sacked over a period of 20 years for alcholism.
  7. Getting back to the original thread, I understand that the latest documents were not classified at all, merely that the subject matter gave the journos the impression that they should have been classified.
  8. Jesus H Christ the bloody enemy within, the buffoons responsible should be locked up!

    Full of semen
    THE government faced fresh embarrassment last night after a Vanguard class nuclear submarine was found on board a commuter train.

    A junior Cabinet Office official has been suspended, while home secretary Jacqui Smith has been told to hand back her keys to the Tower of London.

    HMS Vengeance was discovered by Julian Cook, a trainee solicitor, during his 45 minute journey from Luton to Kings Cross ThamesLink. Mr Cook immediately handed the vessel, and its 135 crew, to the BBC.

    He said: "I was actually going to the toilet when I noticed the aisle was blocked by 16,000 tonnes of ocean-going holocaust machine.

    "The moment we arrived at Kings Cross I dragged it onto the tube and headed straight for Shepherd's Bush."

    After confirming it was a genuine submarine the BBC immediately contacted the Press Association who in turn passed it on to the editor of The Spectator.

    The submarine was eventually handed back to the Royal Navy by the assistant features editor of Grazia.

    The latest security breach comes just 48 hours after the aircraft carrier HMS Invincible was hijacked by a pack of dogs.

    Meanwhile Al Qaeda has released a statement via Al Jazeera TV, outlining plans to shift its international HQ to the 7.45 from Croydon to Victoria
  10. Ye Gods, this time they have gone too far!!
  11. sgtpepperband

    sgtpepperband War Hero Moderator Book Reviewer

    Fink: They didn't really find a nuclear submarine on a train... :twisted: :wink:
  12. I did wonder about the mechanics of it but thought RR is the forum of truth so it must be pukka info.
  13. onHi all - as a new member, thankyou for a future of endless humour!! Perhaps if we all got together and really put thousands of tons of military hardware outside a civil servants office and waited to see how long it took them to realise the significance of its presence? Seconds. . . . . minutes . . . . . hours . . . . . days?? Maybe not, we'd run out of leave and end up in irons.
  14. Helimed20. Too late! It's already happened outside Tyne Building, Guzz.

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