More RNR fuckwittery

#1
Job jobbed - turns out gobbing off on the internet is the way to get shit done.

Thanks to all who have helped with this. You know who you are.
 
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#4
Why are you still in the RNR? I mean, seriously? Don't you have plastic bags to sh*t in and stuff?
I'm waiting for this engineering branch to materialise apparently. If I'm honest it's what I really want to do, whether they actually get their shit in order and work out a way of letting me join the branch remains to be seen.

Just to reiterate, I'm currently doing a BEng and I am a senior systems engineer in the nuclear industry, it's not like I don't know my shit.

Looking at various other options currently, RMR, 4 Para and 23 are all potential goers and I've been in touch with each.

HAC isn't gonna happen, I tried to work out the logistics but the reality of living 300 miles from my unit soon hit home. It just won't work. As pointed out above, being in a unit like that is a big commitment, I can't be doing London to Cumbria every weekend.
 

Seadog

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#5
Just to reiterate, I'm currently doing a BEng and I am a senior systems engineer in the nuclear industry, it's not like I don't know my shit.
I read that the new RNR E branch will take you on in the rate you left. WTF? A lot of chaps -and doubtless chapesses- advance professionally at the speed of sound when they leave the RN. An extreme example, not followed through:

STCW Class 1 CoC, doctorate and chartered engineer but left as a killick 15 years before.

Welcome back hooky!
 
#10
I'm currently in the process of seamlessly transferring, I say in the process, but after my initial application I haven't heard much since the initial exchange of emails back in march despite regularly enquiring. I did read somewhere that I'll receive an offer during my final month so fingers crossed it all goes well.

The thing is, and maybe ninja could confirm, but I've been told by the PO Wtr dealing with my application and also a WO Nurse (of all people) that the RNR is looking at the prospect of having a Chef's branch. Now I've not seen any DIN, RNTM etc to confirm this but it would be great to remain in my original branch. Anyone heard of any similar buzzes? It would make sense seeing as, at killick level, the chef's branch is at death's door.

I've been told to wait and see what the RNR are prepared to offer.
 
#12
The thing is, and maybe ninja could confirm, but I've been told by the PO Wtr dealing with my application and also a WO Nurse (of all people) that the RNR is looking at the prospect of having a Chef's branch. Now I've not seen any DIN, RNTM etc to confirm this but it would be great to remain in my original branch. Anyone heard of any similar buzzes? It would make sense seeing as, at killick level, the chef's branch is at death's door.
Is that supposed to be a morale boost for the RNR? Give the lads something proper to drip about! :D
 
#13
I'd **** it off.

Why not try 101 RA, 102 REME or the QOY?
I feel like all the shit I went through to get in, I should at least give it a shot. Also I can't be arsed going through the massive hassle of joining the Armed Forces for the 4th time.

Gonna give the Engineering branch until next financial year to sort their shit out, if nothing is forthcoming by then, I will be looking at one of the options above.

If I stay until April then I think I'm due my VRSM. Sweet.
 
#16
Anyone got any ideas what I'm supposed to do? Save for Remembrance Sunday and a few dinghy sailing weekends, there is literally not a single thing at branch or unit level until April next year. What manner of bollox is this?

Any ideas @SimpleReservist ?

When I was in the TA there was shit to do every single weekend and usually during the week. In my first year I banged in over 100 MTDs. In the RNR I'm gonna be lucky if I hit 6 MTDs this year. WTF?

I made the effort to join this organisation and I jumped through some ridiculous hoops to get here, I've made myself available, now it's up to the RNR to give me something to do and employ me. And I'm not talking about doing sport on Weds evenings.
I think you've have met the RN and RNR at a bad point, plus the usual RNR fuckwittery associated with training.

The engineering JR 'solution', alongside the limitations at MWS, means (I think) that any kind of spare capacity has disappeared out of the situation. Add in a organisation that couldn't have a piss-up in a brewery, and I suspect we get the situation you have described.
 

Ninja_Stoker

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#17
I'm currently in the process of seamlessly transferring, I say in the process, but after my initial application I haven't heard much since the initial exchange of emails back in march despite regularly enquiring. I did read somewhere that I'll receive an offer during my final month so fingers crossed it all goes well.

The thing is, and maybe ninja could confirm, but I've been told by the PO Wtr dealing with my application and also a WO Nurse (of all people) that the RNR is looking at the prospect of having a Chef's branch. Now I've not seen any DIN, RNTM etc to confirm this but it would be great to remain in my original branch. Anyone heard of any similar buzzes? It would make sense seeing as, at killick level, the chef's branch is at death's door.

I've been told to wait and see what the RNR are prepared to offer.
The seamless transfer is an "in service" scheme that simply involves filling out a form (L005) and submitting it to the POWTR. Your discharge medical counts as your joining medical, your SC remains valid and that's about it, you're in.

As long as you do this before you are in your last couple of months & you've had email acknowledgement, you can then contact your local RNR unit with your current ID card in your mitts & crack-on.

If you haven't filled out the form before commencing terminal leave or haven't had confirmation of receipt, then it's a whole different ball game & you have to be processed by your AFCO, which is much a pain for your AFCO as it is for the individual, unfortunately.

With regard a RNR Chef branch - heard rumour, but seen nothing official yet. It certainly makes sense with the potential to create FTRS posts for marinised civilian Chefs.

The RNR engineering branch seems only applicable to RN trained Engineering Technicians with "hands on" experience rather than civilian qualified "hands on" engineers. The logic is presumably due to the fact the RNR doesn't currently have the capacity to "marinise" civilian equivalents, bearing in mind it takes the RNR 5 years or more to produce a CIS on the trained strength. That said, with the introduction of the Direct Entry POET(ME), or DEPOT, in the regular service, perhaps there's scope for a parallel RNR scheme.

The problem I believe the RNR has is that until they have SME's in the relevant field, they cannot establish a training pipeline for accredited civilian equivalents. The Army Reserves, on the other hand, can relatively rapidly churn out deployable infantrymen.

By comparison, the RMR take about 14 months to produce a RMR Commando - who, whilst deployable within a regular service unit, is still not able to join the regular service in a trained capacity without undergoing RM Recruit Training ....from scratch.
 
#18
2DD
If you are happy, can you PM me, I will then make a few enquiries. I know of a CIS JR who tx to engineering branch last week!

Olii - chefs are happening. What unit will u be close to?
 
#19
The closest unit to me is President.

It'll be interesting to see how they use the chef branch. It really needs to be a sea going role that supplements the regulars in order to give the lads a bit of balance in their careers.

Using them to take up shore billets is not going to help anyone, I'd have thought.
 

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