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MOD confirms body parts kept

broadside

War Hero
Losing a loved one is devastating. Finding out that "body parts" may have been kept (presumably in cold storage) will naturally open old wounds (no pun intended) but I have to say that a tissue sample on a laboratory slide for microscopic analysis is hardly something to fire up the outrage bus. Fair enough, once no longer of use or relevance to an investigation these items (and especially body parts) should be sensitively disposed of and clearly have not but let's keep a sense of proportion.
 
Losing a loved one is devastating. Finding out that "body parts" may have been kept (presumably in cold storage) will naturally open old wounds (no pun intended) but I have to say that a tissue sample on a laboratory slide for microscopic analysis is hardly something to fire up the outrage bus. Fair enough, once no longer of use or relevance to an investigation these items (and especially body parts) should be sensitively disposed of and clearly have not but let's keep a sense of proportion.

Shocking - The RMP have never heard of the Human Tissue Act or followed the protocol !
 

finknottle

Banned
Losing a loved one is devastating. Finding out that "body parts" may have been kept (presumably in cold storage) will naturally open old wounds (no pun intended) but I have to say that a tissue sample on a laboratory slide for microscopic analysis is hardly something to fire up the outrage bus. Fair enough, once no longer of use or relevance to an investigation these items (and especially body parts) should be sensitively disposed of and clearly have not but let's keep a sense of proportion.


Don't you think that the permission of the NOK should have been sought first?
 
I think the only outrage here is the bloody newspaper stirring shit. We are talking DNA slides of the poor sods who've been blown to bits, think about all the remains of soldiers from the first and second world wars that are only now being discovered but will be buried in unmarked graves because no one can identify them, a DNA file will mean this will not happen again. The way the paper reports it you'd think the SIB were hoarding arms and legs, not small pieces of flesh and bone scooped up after a bomb has shredded and totally mingled a couple of soldiers bodies together. Glad I dont have to sort that mess out.
 

frogman007

War Hero
I think the only outrage here is the bloody newspaper stirring shit. We are talking DNA slides of the poor sods who've been blown to bits, think about all the remains of soldiers from the first and second world wars that are only now being discovered but will be buried in unmarked graves because no one can identify them, a DNA file will mean this will not happen again. The way the paper reports it you'd think the SIB were hoarding arms and legs, not small pieces of flesh and bone scooped up after a bomb has shredded and totally mingled a couple of soldiers bodies together. Glad I dont have to sort that mess out.

Sorry mate, but if you see the latest reports they ARE actually keeping limbs and whole body parts.
 

broadside

War Hero
Don't you think that the permission of the NOK should have been sought first?

Permission for what? SIB using a tissue sample to identify the poor sod who was blown to bits or the BBC for broadcasting this highly distasteful and disrespectful story that is guaranteed to cause further unnecessary distress?
 

MG Maniac

War Hero
Some bits have to kept because its a Coroner's case and therefore required for the inquest. Theres also a period of time whereby things like slides and tissue samples have to be retained afterward (sometimes years) ... and because its a Cornoner's case they don't need the families permission. There are exceptions to the rule when things are kept longer than necessary however thats normally because people are being overworked and just about have time to sort out whats coming into the lab without worrying whats going out.

That being said it doesn't need to be plastered over the National Press and it needs to be handled with dignity and respect.
 

frogman007

War Hero
Please. They aren't hoarding arms and legs. Switch on froggy for fucksake.

Yep you're right been on the wine and misinterpreted whole body parts. Wine,wine,wine. Why do you do this to me?????

For the record- slightly embarrassed I wrote that. Had three days off this week and Monsieur Savignon called.
 
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angrydoc

Guest
Very bad drills for this to come out in this manner. Silly season and the need to report something negative is possibly a reason - Olympics going better than expected and improvement in the weather has probably left most of the Daily Mail journos on suicide watch.

A similar outcry happened over 10 years ago and, as a result, the Human Tissue Act was introduced which stopped human tissue being kept for education or research purposes without the explicit consent of the next of kin. I don't know the ins and outs of the current issue, but I suspect it is more down to administrative procedures than a desire to keep human tissue for education or research. NOK should have been kept in the loop though and this shouldn't have happened.

Once again the wonderful free press of this country has caused a lot of anxiety to further its own ends.
 

finknottle

Banned
Permission for what? SIB using a tissue sample to identify the poor sod who was blown to bits or the BBC for broadcasting this highly distasteful and disrespectful story that is guaranteed to cause further unnecessary distress?

I think you will find that AD has answered that in the previous post.
 

finknottle

Banned
I am delighted that you have someone who can answer questions for you Finks.


Where the definitive answer came from is irrelevant but you should man-up and admit that on this occasion you got it wrong and I got it right? I know that may be a rarity for me so I am savouring the moment.
 
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cúnt

Guest
In my opinion someone made a mistake. Unfortunately the SIB vs RMP piss fight put it in the public domain.

Mistakes happen, particularly within large organisations. Sad, in this case perhaps, but true. There are good reasons to keep samples, and larger body parts recovered from the ground many weeks after the body has been recovered are prone to get lost in the system. Bad admin, but hey ho.
 
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