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Minimum alcohol pricing

fishhead

War Hero
This is not a tax but a minimum price that any strength alcoholic drink can be sold at depending on the number of units of alcohol.As far as I can see the amount of duty payable remains the same.They're hoping the dimwits who get paralytic on cheap powerful lager from the offy or the supermarket will be priced out of the market.The rest of us just get swept up in the net but unless you're drinking loads of spirits or cheap plonk it won't make a great deal of difference to the cost of our tipple.
 

trelawney126

War Hero
Won't make any inference to the regular pub goers as they already pay more than the 50 p per unit minimum proposed charge. It will affect the home drinker who likes to drink in his own home and doesn't in the main engage in unruly behaviour. Therefore he as to pay the extra tax to pay for the policing of pub and club venues. Simples
 

Flagdeck

War Hero
This is not a tax but a minimum price that any strength alcoholic drink can be sold at depending on the number of units of alcohol.As far as I can see the amount of duty payable remains the same.They're hoping the dimwits who get paralytic on cheap powerful lager from the offy or the supermarket will be priced out of the market.The rest of us just get swept up in the net but unless you're drinking loads of spirits or cheap plonk it won't make a great deal of difference to the cost of our tipple.


If it is not a tax..... who benefits from the extra revinue.........the manufacturer/brewery/distillery.....?
The fcukwits to which you refer will not be deterred.............like drugs..... they will feed their habit..... from whatever source.
I remember Caroline Flint in the last lot banging on about having 'warnings' on bottles.... like ciggies...this, coming from a party that introduced 'open all hours' licensing laws. I think it's just another example of the 'Nanny State'. The way to solve late night binge drinking in town centres, and the anti-social activities that ensue is effective policing, and penalties to match.
 

Flagdeck

War Hero
Won't make any inference to the regular pub goers as they already pay more than the 50 p per unit minimum proposed charge. It will affect the home drinker who likes to drink in his own home and doesn't in the main engage in unruly behaviour. Therefore he as to pay the extra tax to pay for the policing of pub and club venues. Simples

As one of those 'home drinkers' to which you refer.......you're saying that I'm having to pay for the policing etc..... I thought I already paid for that through general taxation/council tax.....this is all too much for me.....I need a drink.
 

Guzzler

War Hero
BBC News - Minimum alcohol price planned for England and Wales#

Is this really necessary, or nanny state interference ....or just another tax 'for our own good' ...like 'green' taxes ?

Edited to add.............Will this apply to the House of Commons bars ?.......tricky one that, sir.

Couldn't agree more. No, really.

Bloody state intervention is becoming more and more insidious. They seem intent on creating more and more laws/taxes and various other things to fu...(oops, not Lil's) mess us up.

*******.
 

mikh

MIA
If costs go up in shops, you can bet your eye teeth the bandits than run the breweries will put their prices up
 

Topstop

War Hero
It worked on Andros, only the submariners could afford it, the skimmers had to go home early.
 

fishhead

War Hero
If costs go up in shops, you can bet your eye teeth the bandits than run the breweries will put their prices up
The supermarkets etc. will not need to screw the breweries so hard on price to try and have loss leader promotions so there is a likelyhood that price rises will be limited to the usual inflation and duty.
 

witsend

MIA
Book Reviewer
Maybe they should introduce minimum pricing on Micky D's and the likes of Burger King. I'm sure the NHS would be relieved.
 

OMM

War Hero
Maybe they should introduce minimum pricing on Micky D's and the likes of Burger King. I'm sure the NHS would be relieved.

100% back this up, obesity creates so many more health related issues than alcohol.
 
I'm a bit annoyed that CAMRA supports this standard knee jerk reaction to what is perceived to be the problem. Their argument is that it will make drinking in pubs more attractive; and if it was that simple, I'd support it. What grips mine is the effect it will have on low income folk and particularly Pensioners. If you are some politician bludger, a few bob on a bottle of whisky or whatever won't make a big difference. Also, perhaps all those bloody celeb TV chefs will have stop those endless recipes that need tanker loads of spirit or wine.

On the positive side, maybe we could convince our local friendly MP parasite that if we get the minimum pricing; kill the Beer Tax Escalator. The buggers can't have it both ways. While we're at it, it would be good cause to end that ridiculous variable Duty on beer ABVs.

As regards pissheads making our streets unpleasant, that's probably more to do with lack of discipline in their upbringing. The alchol is an excuse, not the root cause. As others have said, the alcohol addicts will pay whatever it costs, by whatever means.
 
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Sharkey

Banned
Just about every corner shop in every town in the country has an alcohol licence, plus a Booze R U shop on every high street, pubs and clubs open all day, supermarkets open 24/7 with every kind of drink you can think of, to me its not the price its the availability.
 

Flagdeck

War Hero
Are these ignorant buggers determined to destroy our British ale heritage? A pound to a pile of s**t, their target doesn't even drink strong Euro lager let alone strong ale. We don't know yet what the long term effects have been from the introduction of this idiocy.

Anybody know what UKIP's drink policy is?

Until
Kick out time
I'm
Paying

 

WreckerL

War Hero
Super Moderator
Are these ignorant buggers determined to destroy our British ale heritage? A pound to a pile of s**t, their target doesn't even drink strong Euro lager let alone strong ale. We don't know yet what the long term effects have been from the introduction of this idiocy.

Anybody know what UKIP's drink policy is?

Whichever one they think will get the most votes.
 

MG Maniac

War Hero
Two answers to this ...

Quick Booze Cruise to France to pick up all the wine you can carry from the Frog supermarkets

Brew your own beer!
 
BBC News - David Cameron vows to end cheap alcohol sales
David Cameron has told MPs he will "deal with" cheap alcohol being sold in supermarkets in England and Wales.
It comes after reports the government has ditched plans for 45p per unit minimum alcohol pricing.

Well that's clear then. No doubt some cunning plan will pop up in the Budget; except that it was the Treasury that argued that reduced consumption would bugger up their revenue estimates. Either way, I bet the Brownian "beer tax escalator" stays in place.
 
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