Minesweepers/Minehunters

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Billy Q

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#1
Much is made of service in minehunters in today's navy.
When did the RN sweep such a live mine?
1947? or later?
 
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Billy Q

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#3
I'm sure there used to be an annual gathering of sweepers and they would go out and sweep the WW2 minefields in the North Sea.
That is so . Most of the mines were swept and destroyed by 1947 or thereabouts I think. . A couple lurking off Albania sank two of our destroyers in 1947 . We are still attempting to get reparations--Fat chance

Given that, why do spend all that money today on Minehunters?
 

Seaweed

War Hero
Book Reviewer
#9
In the sixties there were still a sufficient number of mines thought to be about in the North Sea for ships to be confined to NEMEDRI (Northern Europe and Med Routing Instructions) channels, marked on charts and by buoys*, when transiting along the coast of Holland, N Germany and Denmark. There was an annual NATO sweepfest - don't know when that stopped.

* Very tricky navigation anyway because of tidal streams on the one hand and water gushing out of Europe's rivers on the other.
 

jrwlynch

Lantern Swinger
#10
Much is made of service in minehunters in today's navy.
When did the RN sweep such a live mine?
1947? or later?
Serious sweeping done in 2003 that I'm sure of, clearing the approaches to Umm Qasr. (Too much crap on the seabed for hunting to work...)

And before that, 1991, lots of mines laid by Iraq that needed clearing: firstly to get the US battleships into range of Kuwait (took 25 MCMVs three weeks, that job) and then to make the area safe enough to navigate after the war.
 

Purple_twiglet

War Hero
Moderator
#11
Lots of work done regularly by the force, its also a case of contingency too. We rely on swept channels to ensure that vessels can go in and out of harbour without problems - for instance SSBNs. Keeping a capability to do this is key, not just to get rid of anything thats found, but to know what is there day to day and spot what changes.

The presence of the RN MCMV squadron in the gulf is critical because if the straits of hormuz were ever to close, then you can kiss goodbye to the global economy. RN is the world leader in MCMV capability, (even USN pales in insignificance) and this is a major commitment for us.

These days its all hunting not sweeping though - the idea in future is to move the technical stuff ashore, keep the hull out of the minefield and use technology to get rid of it instead.
 
#12
Lots of work done regularly by the force, its also a case of contingency too. We rely on swept channels to ensure that vessels can go in and out of harbour without problems - for instance SSBNs. Keeping a capability to do this is key, not just to get rid of anything thats found, but to know what is there day to day and spot what changes.
We had to search for a ground mine dragged up and then ditched by a Troon fisherman back in 98 whilst in the channels.
This was quickly followed by live hunting in the approaches to Tallinn, Estonia with the Swedes, Estonians and Dutch due to the amount of 'stuff' the Soviets dumped when they left.
Following year was Kosovo and as part of the NATO Med MCM squadron we had to clear the Adriatic of bombs ditched after unsuccessful bombing runs on the Serbs - OK, not technically mine hunting but them Mk82's were hard to crack! Had to use 2 MDCs on each bomb!
 

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