Mine warfare specialist

Max9393

Lantern Swinger
All the information I can find on WS/MW seems to just be people bashing it, can anyone who has had experience in this role let me know if it's really as boring and pointless as what most people seem to be saying (from what I've seen) ?
Cheers
 

Ninja_Stoker

War Hero
Moderator
Generally there are many common areas with WS and WS(MW), the main difference being than MW ratings are only going to serve afloat on Mine countermeasures/Mine hunter vessels. Both branches are issued with a chip for each shoulder in basic training as they'll tell anyone that listens how the AFCO ripped them off and made them join that branch instead of making them a pilot, a diver or an astronaut.

They usually neglect to mention their recruit test score limited the range of jobs available & the fact they couldn't be arsed resitting the recruit test.

They also usually tell everyone the job is rubbish and all they do is paint and clean...neglecting to notice everyone else does too, but is smart enough to notice we don't fly Mum out to clean up after ourselves.

The disadvantages are they are relatively small ships, have limited manpower and limited range. IE: you ain't likely to be on a global deployment taking in trips to Malaysia, the US, the Arctic, Antarctic or Pacific anytime soon. You will however, be bounced around like a cork in a washing machine.

The job is physical, involves indoor and outdoor elements regardless of weather and you earn your pay.

Bottom line is it's a job, not unlike any other. It's not a youth entertainment programme and WS(MW) is no less "seen off" than anyone else. Sadly, those who complain are always heard, those who are content seldom shout about being content.
 

Max9393

Lantern Swinger
Generally there are many common areas with WS and WS(MW), the main difference being than MW ratings are only going to serve afloat on Mine countermeasures/Mine hunter vessels. Both branches are issued with a chip for each shoulder in basic training as they'll tell anyone that listens how the AFCO ripped them off and made them join that branch instead of making them a pilot, a diver or an astronaut.

They usually neglect to mention their recruit test score limited the range of jobs available & the fact they couldn't be arsed resitting the recruit test.

They also usually tell everyone the job is rubbish and all they do is paint and clean...neglecting to notice everyone else does too, but is smart enough to notice we don't fly Mum out to clean up after ourselves.

The disadvantages are they are relatively small ships, have limited manpower and limited range. IE: you ain't likely to be on a global deployment taking in trips to Malaysia, the US, the Arctic, Antarctic or Pacific anytime soon. You will however, be bounced around like a cork in a washing machine.

The job is physical, involves indoor and outdoor elements regardless of weather and you earn your pay.

Bottom line is it's a job, not unlike any other. It's not a youth entertainment programme and WS(MW) is no less "seen off" than anyone else. Sadly, those who complain are always heard, those who are content seldom shout about being content.
Thanks alot, I liked the sound of smaller vessels anyway, that's exactly what I wanted to hear...
Was just getting a bit worried as I am going to the UK for my full medical etc soon (I'm overseas) and everything I could find to do with the role I've applied for was just bashing it and I don't want to say I was regretting it, just wanted to join a role that played a good part for the navy and WS/MW looked the best to me, that cleared everything up for me though, thank you
 

Shipspotter

Badgeman
Thanks alot, I liked the sound of smaller vessels anyway, that's exactly what I wanted to hear...
Was just getting a bit worried as I am going to the UK for my full medical etc soon (I'm overseas) and everything I could find to do with the role I've applied for was just bashing it and I don't want to say I was regretting it, just wanted to join a role that played a good part for the navy and WS/MW looked the best to me, that cleared everything up for me though, thank you
I’m looking at joining as either a WS or SS but as you say, there’s only negative reviews on here, I’d love to see a review of someone who loves the job who could expand a bit more in-depth about the roles and day to day life at sea
 

Max9393

Lantern Swinger
I’m looking at joining as either a WS or SS but as you say, there’s only negative reviews on here, I’d love to see a review of someone who loves the job who could expand a bit more in-depth about the roles and day to day life at sea
I just wanted a bit of reassurance, but what I can tell you is I've spoke to people who served on Mine counter measure vessels before and they said it was brilliant and the best years of their life, only that they spend alot of time away from home (but why join the navy if you aren't okay with that) So I don't see that as a negative. Best of luck with whatever you choose!
 

Shipspotter

Badgeman
I just wanted a bit of reassurance, but what I can tell you is I've spoke to people who served on Mine counter measure vessels before and they said it was brilliant and the best years of their life, only that they spend alot of time away from home (but why join the navy if you aren't okay with that) So I don't see that as a negative. Best of luck with whatever you choose!
Mines either or I reckon. Like I don’t care if I’m on deck painting while sailing through the med!! I’m sure with the lads and lasses around you, you can have a good laugh while working in the sun!! Sounds like a winner to me!!
 

Max9393

Lantern Swinger
Mines either or I reckon. Like I don’t care if I’m on deck painting while sailing through the med!! I’m sure with the lads and lasses around you, you can have a good laugh while working in the sun!! Sounds like a winner to me!!
Good point !
 

huwshpis

War Hero
When I joined the RNR 40+ years ago, we were all about mine warfare. We made up one complete mine countermeasures squadron of wooden-hulled 25-year-old MCMVs, a mixture of sweepers and hunters. I was a radio mechanic, so only got a chipping hammer and pot of red lead when "paint ship" became an all hands evolution; in fairness, it wasn't often. There was a LOT more work in keeping the electrical equipment working, especially when the radar in one ship regularly detuned itself. The other great balls-ache was repeated gyro failure (several times a day on one trip I did). The biggest tragedy was when we lost our ships in defence cuts (and because of sheer old age) and our roles changed to being more shore-based, but I was navigating desks around various HQs by then.
 

Max9393

Lantern Swinger
When I joined the RNR 40+ years ago, we were all about mine warfare. We made up one complete mine countermeasures squadron of wooden-hulled 25-year-old MCMVs, a mixture of sweepers and hunters. I was a radio mechanic, so only got a chipping hammer and pot of red lead when "paint ship" became an all hands evolution; in fairness, it wasn't often. There was a LOT more work in keeping the electrical equipment working, especially when the radar in one ship regularly detuned itself. The other great balls-ache was repeated gyro failure (several times a day on one trip I did). The biggest tragedy was when we lost our ships in defence cuts (and because of sheer old age) and our roles changed to being more shore-based, but I was navigating desks around various HQs by then.
Did you enjoy your time in the MW branch ? (I'm guessing it's changed alot now either way)
 

huwshpis

War Hero
Yes. One of the best things about being in small ships was you got to learn a lot about other people's jobs, greenies got to do lots of dabber things and some stokery bits, as well as peeling lots of potatoes.
 
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