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How many mines have the Royal Navy actually swept in the last 40 years or so?
The only foreign service today is in Bahrain --a bit in Gibraltar and Cyprus --with the Mine Countermeasure Squadron.
But have they ever seen or dealt with a mine in all the years they have operated there?
Does anyone know?
 

Alfacharlie

War Hero
Why does one need to know?
All that money spent over all those years continuing today sweeping non existent mines What is the point of it other than to show to young recruits that an exciting career awaits them. Please explain what the point of that nonsence is? You tell me I am wrong but seem unable to tell me just why i am wrong.
I’ve stated it above. ^^^^^
 

Alfacharlie

War Hero
You are flannelling,
You have no idea. The whole charade is a MOD" Just look at what we are doing" Do come and join the Army or Navy. The RAF seem well provided for. Could it be that the RAF still have interesting posts abroad where the army and navy doesnt. What is the answer Does anyone sensibly know.
Thicker than a whale omelette springs to mind.
As I’ve pointed out, you’re a tit.
 

Dredd

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You are flannelling,
You have no idea. The whole charade is a MOD" Just look at what we are doing" Do come and join the Army or Navy. The RAF seem well provided for. Could it be that the RAF still have interesting posts abroad where the army and navy doesnt. What is the answer Does anyone sensibly know.
You are actually quite a prize, aren't you. We are lucky to have you. Thank you soooooo much for your facile and irrelevant contributions.

Operation Kipion
 

WreckerL

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Super Moderator
I'll bite.
To keep Norman and his alleged cohorts happy we ditch our minesweeping capability, the money saved could be used to pay for TV licences.

Those nasty Iranian people are fed up with the West and it's sanctions plus Saudi Arabia backing the other side in that other countries war they're backing so start taking the cheap and easy option and lay a minefield overnight in the Straits of Hormuz.

We have no MCM capability so have to wait for other countries to get British flagged merchant vessels out of trouble.

Upside is we can all watch it unfold on our free tv's as the licence has been paid for us.
 

Dredd

War Hero
Super Moderator
I do find it amusing when a citizen (subject for those inclined that way) starts to criticise how their taxes are spent by focusing on a detail, and not the broad strokes. Most have little understanding of how the Government gets its money, how it is allocated, what it is allocated to or how it is affected by legal obligations both national and otherwise.

To be fair though, a similar discussion has been ongoing over on the Other Side regarding the continued relevance of RTR, and since MCM capability HAS reportedly been mooted as being for the chop (along with Royal, supposedly) then it is open for debate.

Changes in the threat profile, along with geo-political shifts, have an effect on what we are geared up for and it is regularly stated that nations tend to be organised in order to fight the last war and not necessarily the one that may be coming, but for MCM now - Straits of Hormuz is pretty bloody important, whatever Extinction Rebellion would have you believe.

A primary duty of a Navy that serves an island nation is to keep our sea trade routes open - and to be prepared to defend against hostile measures that seek to disrupt them. So for now - the MCM is still a valuable tool in our defence box.
 

Taztiff

War Hero
How many mines have the Royal Navy actually swept in the last 40 years or so?
The only foreign service today is in Bahrain --a bit in Gibraltar and Cyprus --with the Mine Countermeasure Squadron.
But have they ever seen or dealt with a mine in all the years they have operated there?
Does anyone know?
I have a medal for clearing lots of explosive stuff off the bottom of the Adriatic in 99.
I don't have medals for the clearing of explosive stuff in various other areas during my time on a MCMV.
Estonia in 98 after the Commies dumped loads of sh!t around the harbour on their way out comes to mind. That was fun. And it is a continual process.
Plus the old WW2 stuff that is continually found by fishermen around our coast - old sea mine in the submarine transit areas off Arran - oh yeah, did that.
After 20 years on frigates it was very apparent that the MCMV force used a lot of 'real' weapons as part of their day job.
And as said earlier, the gulf may have been a lot different without the MCMVs leading in. That will not go away. Our entry and exit routes from Guz, Pompy, sundodger city and the Gulf require keeping clear to protect our capitol assets. Mines are cheap to lay.
 
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