Is it true that Midshipmen are non-commissioned officers? I was sure that they were commissioned but I think I might have read somewhere that S/Lt is the lowest commissioned rank? Is this true?
When an officer is saluted, it is the commission he/she holds that is being acknowledged, not the individual; just like saluting the ensign (the equivalent of a 'regimental colour') when boarding or leaving a commissioned warship or submarine. While not yet holding a commission, midshipmen are usually saluted out of common courtesy.Wikipedia said:...In countries whose ranking systems are based upon the models of the British Armed Forces, officers from the rank of Second Lieutenant (Army), Sub-Lieutenant (Navy) or Pilot Officer (Air Force) to the rank of General (Army), Admiral (Navy) or Air Chief Marshal (Air Force) are holders of a commission granted to them by the awarding authority. In Britain and other Commonwealth realms, the awarding authority is the monarch (or a Governor General representing the monarch) as head of state. The head of state often is granted the power to award commissions, or has commissions awarded in his or her name....
Not quite true. Many would have started as cadets as I did, or even on the lower deck. Those who flew Buccs would certainly have been cadets before they became midshipmen.scouse said:All the famous Officers in the RN started life as Snotties :wink: :wink: Flying Buccaneers as well :salute: :worship:
That's because they were manufacturered from steel!scouse said:Midshipmen are Invincible! FACT
Name: Midshipmen are Invincible! FACT
Category: Just for Fun - Outlandish Statements
Description: Midi tabs are bulletproof, bombproof, and amazing bullshit deflectors.
Anyone who needs proof just watch an old WWII film, 18 inch shells can land on their heads killing all others around but the Snotty always pops up unscathed.
True, but that's only fiction.I mean, I don't know, but Hornblower seems to suggest otherwise...
Thanks, I understand now. It turns out that I misunderstood something that a friend (who is a retired Warrant Officer) said, that's why I thought Middy's used to have no authority at all. Sorry, that was quite a silly mistake on my part. *blush*I don't think 'no authority as recently as 40 years ago' is correct at all. As I said above, I've never heard of Midshipmen having no authority over ratings and seeing as it was 35 years ago that I joined Dartmouth I'm sure I would have known about the 'powers' that we had that five years before we wouldn't have had.