Medical question

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  1. I know this is proabably a question for Ninja, but I thought it would be of use to others so I am posting it.

    The doctor who did my medical is sending off the records of a check up I had done on my heart murmur and is fairly confident that I will be given the all clear. However, this is probably not going to happen till Jan/Feb.

    What I wanted to check was, will this affect my starting date? I now won't be able to do my PJFT till I return to the UK in April, however my AFCO seemed to be of the opinion that the date I will be given will be from date of application rather than date all the pre-joining tests are completed.

    Anyone been in a similar position?
  2. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    Hiya Fi, a good question that many probably wonder.

    Yep, the predicted entry date is usually estimated from when you sat & passed the recruiting test - when someone is Temporarily Medically Unfit (TMU) is shouldn't delay your entry date significantly, if at all.

    It always helps to give the practice manager at your Doctor's surgery a prod just to let them know a letter is inbound & to ask them to reply as soon as possible as it could delay your application. The reason I say could, is because if two people sat the test, interview & medical simultaneously & one passed straight away- that individual could take the PJFT sooner, and have a bid for a provisional entry date submitted, pending Security Clearance.
  3. I'm serving and have a heart murmur, I only found out about it in 88 when I went for a ships diver medical, it showed up on my ECG. I was told then that 1 in 3 people have a heart murmur and simply don't know its there.
  4. Thanks Ninja,

    Actually it's not my doctor I will be waiting for, it's the Naval Medical experts who need to take a look at the records and decide if they are happy with what has already been found or whether they think I should have another check up. Given the time of year I don't expect it to happen that quickly.

    Either way, I am not too concerned about it, as Chaz says it's a fairly common condition and more often than not, totally harmless.
  5. I was told mine was, however with the changes in pressures etc when diving the RN wern't prepared to let me dive, I'm glad they had that view on it!
  6. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    Just for the benefit of those "lurking" and wondering:

    When you attend your AFCO medical, your previous medical history is discussed.

    If there is something that becomes apparent by medical examination or from your medical history, the Medical Officer (MO) will either grade you "Fit for Entry", "Permanently Medically Unfit to enter" (PMU) or "Temporarily Medically Unfit" (TMU).

    The last category is usually resolved either way as follows.

    MO writes to you GP for medical history on the given condition. Upon receipt of this information the MO will usually grade you Fit or PMU. However if he is unable to make a definitive decision the medical notes are forwarded to the Admiralty Medical Board for scrutiny by a specialist in that particular medical field. They will either grade you Fit or PMU. However, if a decision cannot be made from the information provided, then a Specialist Medical is booked with a Consultant in that particular field for a definitive Fit/Unfit decision.

    Timescales vary, but as a rough guide, expect a 4 week wait for each stage entered into. The last bit, the Specialist Bit, depends on the waiting list to see someone in that field.
  7. When I went for my medical prior to joining up they discovered I had one. I then had to go to Haslar to get a scan.

    I was told I'd be ok to join and in I went. But prior to me joining someone did die on the obstacle course due to having a heart murmur and this is why they had to double check to make sure I wold be ok to join.

    I'm still here and I did 7 years of service when I was in so you should be fine lol
  8. Murmurs in young people are generally pretty innocent (as previous posters have suggested), but as with everything we have to adopt a risk management view and investigate them fully. Not a bad thing, really. Hopefully all will come through clear for you.

    On a technical point, chaz, murmurs are picked up by listening to the heart or doing a heart scan - an ECG simply picks up the electrical wave as it spreads through the heart so the murmur wasn't picked up by ECG - technicality I appreciate, but I am anally retentive.
  9. I'm currently P3P due to a heart condition and i've got a heart operation in March

    got something called Atrial fibrillation, which is more or less a heart murmur and to keep it in the branch my operation is a radio frequency catheter ablation

    Navy have been pretty good about it so far
  10. Oh! I'm sure I was told that but there again it was best part of 20 years ago. I remember the LMA on the Hermione telling me while turn to on the bridge wing "Chaz, you'll have to go to Caledonia sick bay tomorrow morning as theres something wrong with your heart!!". I didn't get alot of sleep that night and had half the RO's mess shouting 'bang' behind me, and the other half handing me portable radio batteries. The humour of Jack has always amused me!
  11. Welll best of luck Buster hope your operation goes well have a happy christmas

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