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Medical Query

Turbs

Midshipman
Just a question regarding my third medical!...

After my first medical, the doctor reviewed my notes from my GP after being TMU. Although the GP records indicated everything was OK, she told me she would email the commander and check what further tests, if any, may be required, then be in touch.

This was 2 months ago and I haven't been for any further tests or been in contact with the doctor. However, today, I received a phone call from my AFCO telling me that the doctor had been in touch and has made another medical appointment.

Does this look like a pass or fail? Is it likely I would be called in to be told that I have failed after no contact or further tests?

Thanks!
 

Booner123

War Hero
I had to go all the way into the city centre to be told I had to make an exercise diary and see a Physio therapist, why they couldn't do that over the phone I don't know. An hour and a half travelling and half an hour waiting because the doctor was late for a two minute conversation. Either way it's basically impossible to tell, stop trying to read between the lines and just wait and see what they say at the appointment. Good luck.


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Ninja_Stoker

War Hero
Moderator
Just a question regarding my third medical!...

After my first medical, the doctor reviewed my notes from my GP after being TMU. Although the GP records indicated everything was OK, she told me she would email the commander and check what further tests, if any, may be required, then be in touch.

This was 2 months ago and I haven't been for any further tests or been in contact with the doctor. However, today, I received a phone call from my AFCO telling me that the doctor had been in touch and has made another medical appointment.

Does this look like a pass or fail? Is it likely I would be called in to be told that I have failed after no contact or further tests?

Thanks!
Odds are, everything isn't OK, hence the reason the records have been referred to the Senior Medical Officer (Service Entries) [SMOSE] for a definitive decision.

Very often, with borderline issues that cannot be determined fully by the Occupational Health specialist with the contracted company, the case is referred to SMO(SE) for review. If he/she cannot make an outright decision, it maybe referred to a service medical consultant in the relevant field of expertise, to hopefully resolve the issue.

The good news for the applicant is that it's very easy to just say "no" and have done with it, but at least the case is being given every opportunity to succeed. It may well be that a follow-up medical is required in Portsmouth, Plymouth, Birmingham or London if you actually need to see a service consultant for further tests - If this is the case, the decision made will be the final decision as they have, in effect, carried out an appeal on your behalf.

In the event SMO(SE) has made his decision and the follow-up medical is in your region, then the reason for this is so that the Doc can tell you face to face. Sometimes the final appointment is made, but the Doc just gives the individual a call to explain the outcome.
 

Booner123

War Hero
Sometimes the final appointment is made, but the Doc just gives the individual a call to explain the outcome.

Thinking about it that's what happened with me. I was called back to see the doctor the first time but then the second time I was asked to make an appointment by my ACLO only to be called by the doctor to say I had the all clear and I didn't need to attend.


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Turbs

Midshipman
In the event SMO(SE) has made his decision and the follow-up medical is in your region, then the reason for this is so that the Doc can tell you face to face. Sometimes the final appointment is made, but the Doc just gives the individual a call to explain the outcome.

this sounds like what has happened. So basically it is either going to be a pass or a fail on the day?
 

Booner123

War Hero
Okay I'll rephrase it so you can understand. How on gods green earth would it be possible for ninja to know the answer to your question? 1) You're med docs are strictly confidential and only certain people have access to them. 2) The docs try to take everything on a case by case basis and not just fail you because someone punched you in the stomach so hard when you were 6 and gave you a little wheeze and 3) He doesn't have a clue who you are. Get it yet?


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Turbs

Midshipman
Okay I'll rephrase it so you can understand. How on gods green earth would it be possible for ninja to know the answer to your question? 1) You're med docs are strictly confidential and only certain people have access to them. 2) The docs try to take everything on a case by case basis and not just fail you because someone punched you in the stomach so hard when you were 6 and gave you a little wheeze and 3) He doesn't have a clue who you are. Get it yet?


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It wasn't that I didn't get it in the first place, I was simply asking if there is a way this would be done. He doesn't know, there's my answer. Stop brown nosing
 

Booner123

War Hero
You're just over analysing it, stop worrying and just get on with it. It's hard but it's all you can do. Asking questions on an internet forum that the vast majority of members are completely unqualified to comment on won't help.

Brown nosing? Yeah that's exactly what I'm doing. Hail the almighty Ninja. I'll sleep better tonight now knowing I may have gone up in his estimations. Or not of course.


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Booner123

War Hero
But seriously, good luck. I'm off for my aircrew medical and after the first one taking so long it isn't something I have been looking forward to aha.


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So I got a temp fail today, hearing in my right ear and asthma dating back to when I was three, need to do a peak flow chart for four weeks and get my hearing test somewhere else, hopefully it will be soundproofed this time without distractions
 

Ninja_Stoker

War Hero
Moderator
So I got a temp fail today, hearing in my right ear and asthma dating back to when I was three, need to do a peak flow chart for four weeks and get my hearing test somewhere else, hopefully it will be soundproofed this time without distractions
If there's any history of asthma, there's always a requirement to undertake a 4 week peak flow diary unfortunately. There's no escaping that.

The hearing test is a bone of contention - if you get an independent test done (bearing in mind most standard civilian hearing tests don't cover the full frequency range required by the RN) and your hearing is then found to be up to scratch, then I'd be inclined to submit a formal written complaint. That said - no point in complaining if your hearing is subsequently verified unacceptable.

The reason for this is because the hearing test should be carried out in the correct sound-proof environment with a correctly calibrated audiometer & fully serviceable earphones. At the very least, if the hearing test costs you money but you meet the standard for entry - get a receipt and claim it back.

By the by - the opening sentence still works without the "so". :confused:
 

Turbs

Midshipman
But seriously, good luck. I'm off for my aircrew medical and after the first one taking so long it isn't something I have been looking forward to aha.


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Best of luck to you too. I know, It's a frustrating wait to say the least!
 

IlikeB33r

Lantern Swinger
So I got a temp fail today, hearing in my right ear and asthma dating back to when I was three, need to do a peak flow chart for four weeks and get my hearing test somewhere else, hopefully it will be soundproofed this time without distractions

Same boat as you mate (no pun intended). I had my medical on the 10th of October, and I am still waiting to hear back for a re-medical. Just out of curiosity what are you hitting on your peak flow?
 
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