Medical officer

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  1. Hello :)

    I'm in my first year of medical school and am seriously considering going for the medical cadetship, but wanted to hear from some current MOs - get some opinions from people who aren't recruiters!

    So basically I was wondering if anyone could give me the pros and cons of life as an MO against working in the NHS.

    Cheers!
     
  2. I'm Sure Angry Doc will be along sometime to give you a bit of info Bones....BTW..you dont have a relative who will serve on the USS Enterprise in about 200 yrs do you ?
     
  3. We keep him a secret ;)
     
  4. :D :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:
     
  5. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    Fair one.

    I always seek a second opinion when given a prognosis too. :wink:
     
  6. Haha, touche :p advice from recruiters is more than welcome too ;)
     
  7. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    To be fair, it is a rather specialist area & beyond advising that sponsorship maybe available for 3rd Year Med students onwards, you can expect to gain little or no paediatric & geriatric experience in the service, but that service Medical Officers may still work within the private medical field, it's probably best speaking with a serving Doc to gain a better operational (geddit?) background.

    I can PM the number of the service specialist medical recruiters in Portsmouth (if required), who are the subject experts on current regulations & requirements.

    Best of luck, get your kit off, take a seat, help yourself to an out of date Real Homes magazine & angrydoc will see you sooner or later...
     
  8. ...unless you get a call round to the Chiefs' Mess. :lol:
     
  9. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    How very dare you. :wink:
     
  10. That number would be good, cheers :)
     
  11. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    At risk of partaking another of those "check your PM's threads"....check your inbox, take two aspirin & if it's still the same tomorrow, book an appointment. :wink:
     
  12. jockpopeye

    jockpopeye Badgeman Book Reviewer

    Hello Bones,

    A little enlightening anecdote from the patients perspective while you await any feedback from angry doc.

    I injured myself at Raleigh and was taken to Dereford NHS Hospital in Plymouth.

    There were a large number of RN medical staff working in the hospital. On discussion with one LNN, she told me that they would often be at a loose end if they are back in the UK so they are loaned out to the NHS which ensures that they keep all their relevant skills current.

    From my perspective it was nice to have RN personnel around while I was in hospital as I did not feel too disengaged from the RN despite having been quickly whisked off the base and into a civvie hospital.

    On my return to Edinburgh I also saw a Lt Cmdr in orthopaedic outpatients.

    Up shot of this is that depending on operational requirements you probably will have the the oportunity to get other experience.

    Also having been injured I have a very high level of respect for the Medical branch and would encourage you in your pursuit of this. You can always treat old ladies bunions later in your career!
     
  13. Thanks for that, is nice to hear different viewpoints. I'm actually at med school in Plymouth so will be using Derriford a fair amount over the next couple of years. Didn't know there was that big a RN presence at the hospital, definitely something I'll be looking out for...hopefully they won't mind being collared by me!
     
  14. Please tell me thats a bite?
     
  15. Poor phrasing - I knew there were RN staff there, not that they worked with the NHS staff. I was under the impression they were completely separate, which was obviously wrong.
     
  16. Don't just think you'll be working in MDHUs - dependent upon your speciality, and the appropriate deanery, you might get loaned to random NHS trusts for the experience. I'm not a Surg Lt, however, my wife is a LNN(R), and in her day job works in a NHS Unit that has a Surg Lt Cdr and Maj RAMC on their books. Both wear civvies and work exactly the same as any other hospital Dr; I was also under a consultant (Surg Cdr) who ran a NHS specialist unit - I avoided the 17 week wait to see him, and was referred and out in 36 hours!!
     
  17. As Ninja_Stoker says, you're a bit early on to be taken on as a cadet. Cadet numbers are very limited and there is significant competition.

    There are pros and cons to being an MO as against a civvy doctor. You should be careful, especially now with the new medical training scheme and workforce planning. It is a lot different now to when I joined (in 2002) so be careful listening to opinions of those who have been in for a while. Your best bet would be to talk to some Surg Lts when you rotate into Derriford. FYI, Derriford is a Ministry of Defence Hospital Unit (MDHU) where uniformed doctors and nurses work alongside their NHS counterparts. The theory is that if we only look after military patients we get very good at looking after 20-30 year olds with sore knees and pretty crap at looking after 60 year olds with heart attacks and serious illness. This way the NHS benefits from our more mature outlook and trauma experience, and we benefit from seeing crumblies.

    Pros (in no particular order):
    - Better terms of service than the NHS
    - General duties time - best years of my professional life
    - Making loads of friends who arn't doctors
    - Deploying and seeing conditions you simply wouldn't see as a civvy
    - Working with committed and determined colleagues - medical and otherwise
    - Treating military patients who, generally speaking, want to get better (as against civvy wasters who want time off "on the sick")
    - Opportunities to do loads more as an individual - adventure training and other various military activities
    - Much better study budget than the NHS
    - Better professional guidance from senior doctors (ie Professor level)
    - Niche specialties (eg diving medicine, radiation medicine, aviation medicine, submarine medicine)
    - Armed Forces Pension Scheme
    - Slightly better salary than the NHS

    Cons:
    - You don't get to choose geographic location
    - You have to work in specific hospitals
    - You don't get a free choice of specialty - if we are full up with GPs (for example) then we won't let you become one
    - The needs of the Service come before the needs of you


    There are probably more cons but I'm very happy with my life at the mo.

    Hope this helps - let me know if you need more info.


    Angrydoc
    RN Medical Officer (and SpR in Emergency & Intensive Care Medicine)
     
  18. That's really great, cheers for the detailed response :) appreciate it.
     

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