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Medical Eligabillity

Yes, I have already seen the PDF regarding medical eligibility. I just want to be very specific.

It's two things that I would like to get cleared up.

1. I've got Scheurmann's disease making me essentially a hunchback. I am supposed to have surgery for it at the end of the year so that I can get a straight back. It only causes me some discomfort, I live a normal life with it.

2. I have a pin on my Trapezium bone in my left hand from falling over.

Would this restrict me from joining the service? Since I wanna apply to become a Weapons Specialist in a submarine in the next two years.

-Kamil
 

RabC

MIA
This is not the place to ask such questions, it is an unofficial Royal Navy site. For any definitive answers you need to speak to your AFCO. The on.y answers you’ll get on here will be guesses or anecdotes.
 
I don't think there is an AFCO near me, except on the mainland. I live in the Channel Islands, and I don't think there is one in any of the islands.
 

soleil

War Hero
Thanks, Branch-Hopper.

This is Juvenile Kyphosis, isn't it, Anthrax?

Let me just check something for you, I think that I have an idea about this one, it's one which is referred for specialist assessment.

Anthrax, how does it affect you? Would it impair your ability to complete military training successfully, especially when it comes to load-carrying ability?
 

soleil

War Hero
JSP 950 contains the guidelines for medical eligibility.

It says:

39. General. Normal structure and function of the spine is an essential requirement for military service. The following spinal conditions must be given careful consideration.

...

42. Scheuermann’s disease. This must be a radiological diagnosis. Candidates who have achieved 3 months activity comparable with military training (especially load-carrying ability) without symptoms are to be referred to SSMES. Candidates who are currently symptomatic are UNFIT.

Are you in a position to start your application now, Anthrax?


JSP 950:


 
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Thanks, Branch-Hopper.

This is Juvenile Kyphosis, isn't it, Anthrax?

Let me just check something for you, I think that I have an idea about this one, it's one which is referred for specialist assessment.

Anthrax, how does it affect you? Would it impair your ability to complete military training successfully, especially when it comes to load-carrying ability?
I have lived with this since I was 12 and I am now 16. The only thing that this will effect is my self esteem. (I'm joking, it doesn't)

I only have a considerable hunch and stretch marks on my back, but besides that it doesn't prohibit me from doing anything. I'm gunna be doing my Silver Duke of Edinburgh expedition soon on Alderney.

And no, I am not doing my application now. I plan to do it in two years, I just want to get things cleared right now.
 

soleil

War Hero
I don't think there is an AFCO near me, except on the mainland. I live in the Channel Islands, and I don't think there is one in any of the islands.


Recruitment from the Channel Islands has generally been part of the remit of the staff at the AFCO in Plymouth; the staff there used to make two or three trips to the Islands each year to see candidates. Obviously, things will have changed recently.

I was going to recommend that you submit your application online sooner rather than later, but I am aware that there is planned surgery for your condition towards the end of the year. That's not that far away.

I would be inclined to suggest that you ring the staff in Plymouth on Monday to tell them about the planned surgery and what it is for. They may be able to seek further advice which may include guidance on if and when you would be able to apply. It's possible that they will refer to the Medical Officer who deals with Service Entry for further guidance; it will be better this way, as he will know about the complexities of Scheuermann's and the ramifications of surgery.

If this were a static condition which was not going to change, I would have suggested applying now and then engaging with the people who do the medical assessment, including those who do the specialist ones.

That wouldn't be appropriate, though, because of the scheduled surgery.

The details for Plymouth are as follows. Give them a call on Monday.


AFCO(RN)
Plymouth
PL1 2SW

Telephone number 01752 604563​

e-mail [email protected]

 
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Just another question if no one minds too much, what about metalwork? Specifically, pins in the hand? No, it does not restrict anything at all.
 

soleil

War Hero
Just another question if no one minds too much, what about metalwork? Specifically, pins in the hand? No, it does not restrict anything at all.

I would imagine that the following would apply:

24. Previous traumatic fracture with surgical fixation

For those with normal function and with no significant deformity, a period of at least 12 months must have elapsed since the fracture before selection due to remodelling following fracture which often takes up to 12 months. In cases of doubt consult SSMES.

25. Upper limb fractures. Candidates with upper limb fractures where:

a. Union is confirmed.

b. There is no deformity.

c. There is no tenderness over the area of metalwork / fracture site.

d. There are no symptoms with exercise comparable with military training over the last 3 months.

e. There is full function of the joints above and below the injury

are FIT.


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It's very clear to me, Anthrax, that your case is one which really needs the opinion of the Senior Medical Officer (Service Entry). I'm hoping that the CAs in Plymouth will be able to get his opinion for you.

I know that he has an awful lot to do, so be patient.
 

WreckerL

War Hero
Super Moderator
But should you be considering the Armed Forces as a career? Today all is quiet but who knows what tomorrow will bring. Sadly, you would be a sitting duck when, and if, we start shooting at one another.
Whilst entitled to your opinion, in this case it is ill-advised, inappropriate and irrelevant. Please keep them away from the Joining Up threads.
 

Chris P

Lantern Swinger
But should you be considering the Armed Forces as a career? Today all is quiet but who knows what tomorrow will bring. Sadly, you would be a sitting duck when, and if, we start shooting at one another.
WTF are you talking about - sandwich short of a picnic might be applicable here:(
 

soleil

War Hero
i just wanted to see if ill be medically fit to join the navy i dunno what your on about mate

Focus on your constructive plans, Anthrax. Be sure to ring Plymouth in the morning and let us know what they say.

I think that your enquiry needs to be put to the Senior Medical Officer (Service Entry); he will have an informed view on when you will be able to apply given that you are having surgery.

Will you have to take time off from school, Anthrax?
 
Focus on your constructive plans, Anthrax. Be sure to ring Plymouth in the morning and let us know what they say.
Oh yeah, don't worry I will. After school on monday, I'll give them a ring

Will you have to take time off from school, Anthrax?
I don't have a set date on the surgery on my back. When I met them earlier this year, they said it will be some time around the end of the year, but with Covid who knows what is going to happen. They did they they will try to do it at one of the holidays though, since they don't want to interrupt me doing my GCSE's.
 

soleil

War Hero
Oh yeah, don't worry I will. After school on monday, I'll give them a ring


I don't have a set date on the surgery on my back. When I met them earlier this year, they said it will be some time around the end of the year, but with Covid who knows what is going to happen. They did they they will try to do it at one of the holidays though, since they don't want to interrupt me doing my GCSE's.

That's a good idea. They close at 4.30 pm, so try to catch them before then, if you can. If ringing before 4.30 pm is difficult because of school, try on a Thursday when they are open until 8 pm.

Doing the surgery just before Christmas would be good, wouldn't it? You could then recover while lying under a warm blanket and nibbling on mince pies and watching jolly stuff on the TV.

Can your surgery be done at the hospital in Jersey or do you need to come to the mainland?
 
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Can your surgery be done at the hospital in Jersey or do you need to come to the mainland?
No chance in Jersey since I live in the States of Guernsey

They can't do it in the Guernsey Hospital since they just don't do it there I think. I'm getting it done in Southampton.
 
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