Medical Assistant (Submariner) Quals

[Alfacharlie]

There’s a difference between correcting someone and just plain being an arse. As for picking on people just because you can and have, that isn’t an excuse.

‘Picking on people’?
Dry your eyes.

 

[crash_evans]

As much as I understand I was in the wrong giving bogus advice, and was obviously mis/ill-informed, I hardly see how this helps the OP in any way. Why is it the old guard feel the need to belittle people wanting to join up? God forbid if people joining these days actually hang around long enough to offer sound advice when they have put some years in, that is until they’re put off by the old guard.

I guess that would involve actually putting time in? If you can say through your military experience say ‘X’ or ‘Y’. If not, don’t say anything.

I myself am a dabber, thick as a whale omelette. I can talk with authority on my sphere of employment. Other areas, not so much. So, guess what. I don’t say anything.

One thing I have learnt in my career is a little bit of knowledge is dangerous. One may think they know what they are talking about, however, they are coming to conclusions from second hand and imperfect information. Which, actually creates more chaos and confusion.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[crash_evans]

This ‘old guard’, as you put it, some are still serving.

I’m still serving and I resent your old. I manage to avoid being guard these days though. I’m usually busy doing things like mustering firefighting equipment.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[Waspie]

I think the difference is time!!
When I was a young sprog, I listened to the elders because they were the ones that had done it.
Today with the internet, the youngsters read all the information and disinformation on the net and then think that they know it. Not saying mick1199 is or has but it does come across on here that there are experts who have never experienced any actual service experiences.

 

[mick1199]

I guess that would involve actually putting time in? If you can say through your military experience say ‘X’ or ‘Y’. If not, don’t say anything.

I myself am a dabber, thick as a whale omelette. I can talk with authority on my sphere of employment. Other areas, not so much. So, guess what. I don’t say anything.

One thing I have learnt in my career is a little bit of knowledge is dangerous. One may think they know what they are talking about, however, they are coming to conclusions from second hand and imperfect information. Which, actually creates more chaos and confusion.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Now this is genuinely constructive. Understood. I’ll stick to what I know, which is evidently very little!

 

[mick1199]

I think the difference is time!!
When I was a young sprog, I listened to the elders because they were the ones that had done it.
Today with the internet, the youngsters read all the information and disinformation on the net and then think that they know it. Not saying mick1199 is or has but it does come across on here that there are experts who have never experienced any actual service experiences.

Is that because there wasn’t an internet back then? *Genuinely meant in good humour*

 

[Waspie]

Is that because there wasn’t an internet back then? *Genuinely meant in good humour*

No internet in 1967. Technology was a slide rule and a set of log tables!!

 

[Alfacharlie]

I guess that would involve actually putting time in? If you can say through your military experience say ‘X’ or ‘Y’. If not, don’t say anything.

I myself am a dabber, thick as a whale omelette. I can talk with authority on my sphere of employment. Other areas, not so much. So, guess what. I don’t say anything.

One thing I have learnt in my career is a little bit of knowledge is dangerous. One may think they know what they are talking about, however, they are coming to conclusions from second hand and imperfect information. Which, actually creates more chaos and confusion.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

******* hell Crash! That’s just the most beautiful post I’ve read from you!!
Still, I prefer it when we’re taking this piss.

 

[crash_evans]

Now this is genuinely constructive. Understood. I’ll stick to what I know, which is evidently very little!

Oppo,
I’m just a sonar operator and I just work here. No one is knocking your zeal for imparting your answers or thought process on other posters. I’m just saying ease to 5 on giving advice that could be construed as fact.

I’ll give you an example. Back in the day (20’ish years ago). Someone told me that you could use a AFFF extinguisher on a electrical fire. Hmm, wet stuff on a electrical fire that hasn’t been isolated? Seems a bit ‘fruity’ to me. It’s ok, this guy - let’s call him ‘Nobby’ says. You bounce it off a bulkhead (wall in Navy parlance). Perfect I thought, there’s loads of them onboard. I’ll use my ‘experience’ (I was 2 years in) to dazzle everyone with my firefighting.

Only problem is, he’s full of shit. Metal conducts electricity no matter what you bounce it off. So, I’d die. I’m not a fan of dying, So, when I went on the advanced firefighting course I discourage this stupid practice. It’s still floating about, even now.

My takeaway, unless you know or have experienced a subject matter. Avoid giving sage/second hand advice.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[crash_evans]

******* hell Crash! That’s just the most beautiful post I’ve read from you!!
Still, I prefer it when we’re taking this piss.

I managed to get married before lockdown Mk 2 (proper marriage this time, not the practice first one). Maybe I’m getting soft in my 40’s?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[crash_evans]

No internet in 1967. Technology was a slide rule and a set of log tables!!

I still use dividers on TAS charts. The kids look at me like I’m on crack.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[redmonkey]

Oppo,
I’m just a sonar operator and I just work here. No one is knocking your zeal for imparting your answers or thought process on other posters. I’m just saying ease to 5 on giving advice that could be construed as fact.

I’ll give you an example. Back in the day (20’ish years ago). Someone told me that you could use a AFFF extinguisher on a electrical fire. Hmm, wet stuff on a electrical fire that hasn’t been isolated? Seems a bit ‘fruity’ to me. It’s ok, this guy - let’s call him ‘Nobby’ says. You bounce it off a bulkhead (wall in Navy parlance). Perfect I thought, there’s loads of them onboard. I’ll use my ‘experience’ (I was 2 years in) to dazzle everyone with my firefighting.

Only problem is, he’s full of shit. Metal conducts electricity no matter what you bounce it off. So, I’d die. I’m not a fan of dying, So, when I went on the advanced firefighting course I discourage this stupid practice. It’s still floating about, even now.

My takeaway, unless you know or have experienced a subject matter. Avoid giving sage/second hand advice.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I heard that many years ago as well. However they did say you had to be 6ft away from the fire to be safe.
Haven't heard it recently thankfully. And it was certainly not taught a Q course long ago.

What with more and more ships going HV (high voltage) you certainly wouldn't want someone doing that in certain spaces because he had heard it was ok.

 

[Waspie]

I still use dividers on TAS charts. The kids look at me like I’m on crack.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I'm not alone then. Only in my case dividers on 'maps'. It's all on line I'm told. It's in front of me!!!

Another we tale. RAF Fairford. (US air base in the UK.) All flights had to be flight planned. A document for recording flights in controlled airspace. (@Alfacharlie - he'll understand). When asked what navigation aids my helicopter had, TACAN, VOR, DME, DECCCA blah blah blah. I replied nil, map and compass!!! The yank air trafficker looked at me like I was crackers. So I simply asked what would happen to all this high tech stuff in the event of an EMP? So a VMC flight to Portland then he said. Thumbs up from me!!!
(VMC - Visual Meteorological Conditions - ie, you can see the ground). Can't beat old school in some things. Don't get me wrong, I love my tech but sometimes it pays to know another way!!!!!

 

[SONAR-BENDER]

I do wonder what kinds of catastrophe we'll encounter if/when there is an EMP or somebody takes out a satellite/major infrastructure computer attack.
Power stations - no leccy.
Almost all comms.
Map reading skills? More or less lost to GPS.
Electronic charts on most vessels.
FFS even fridges and cookers are linked up to WiFi now!
Etcetera (no - not him!)

Lucky I was in the Scouts and can make a fire, read a map - not that it will be needed, as we'll not be able to go anywhere unless we walk.

 

[crash_evans]

I do wonder what kinds of catastrophe we'll encounter if/when there is an EMP or somebody takes out a satellite/major infrastructure computer attack.
Power stations - no leccy.
Almost all comms.
Map reading skills? More or less lost to GPS.
Electronic charts on most vessels.
FFS even fridges and cookers are linked up to WiFi now!
Etcetera (no - not him!)

Lucky I was in the Scouts and can make a fire, read a map - not that it will be needed, as we'll not be able to go anywhere unless we walk.

In the event of the end of the world. I will be using these as lethal weapons to stab. From experience they bloody hurt.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk