Medical appeal waiting times

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  1. Hi, does anyone know how long it takes to hear back from a medical appeal?
  2. How long have you waited so far? I'm curious to know as I'm not appealing against a decision but awaiting a decision from the SMOSE...

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  3. I waited around 3 months for a decision from the SMOSE who declared me PMU (March 2015 - June 2015). My appeal was received by the SMO at the beginning of October 2015. Not feeling too positive about my case but good luck to you, how long have you been waiting?
  4. Ah sorry to hear of your situation but at least your case is being given another chance through appeal. Best of luck to you. I've been TMU for 14 months, all my docs required were sent to Capita back in May, and it has gone over to SMOSE between now and then... the wait for a result is brutal!

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  5. 14 months?! Wow! You must be so patient! Hope everything goes ok!
  6. I waited two years to hear back and turned out they LOST my file. I'd get chasing that, i was waiting a specialist's review.
  7. Thanks, hope your appeal turns out for the best

    This was my other fear... And to be honest it would be just my luck with everything that's happened so far! It's either that or there's some sort of backlog and my case is right at the end

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  8. Following what Mdru191 said, i would chase it and then once you know its being dealt with ring up on a weekly basis just to check the progress. I was told to do the same, it may seem annoying but perhaps might help to keep you in the loop a bit :)
  9. Good luck, hope everything works out well!
  10. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    I certainly wouldn't advise ringing your AFCO weekly because they only act upon directions from SMO(SE) when they are received, they certainly don't ring up the Senior Medical Officer each week to ask how each of the 200+ appeals are getting on because the list would simply get longer.

    A ring once a month is entirely acceptable pending a referral to keep track. Rest assured it is equally as frustrating for your AFCO as they have to go "hands off" when it comes to medical issues and we, like you, have to wait.

    In the ideal world the applicant would be able to talk direct with the people dealing with the referral but there appears to be some contractual reason why this cannot currently happen. Hopefully, in the new year the new contract will come into effect and that should hopefully open-up dialogue between the "customer" and the "service provider".

    I bloody-well hope so anyway.
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  11. The last time I spoke with my AFCO was 3 months ago and I was reassured that as soon as he knows anything he will be in touch. I'm just seeing it as time to be keeping fit. Although I would hate to think my file has been lost, luckily I have copies of everything I've submitted, should the worse happen! What I don't want to be told 18 months down the line is 'this murmur is actually serious, I wouldn't be doing all that training if I was you' (hoping being asymptomatic I have nothing to worry about, although this extended wait for an outcome makes me think otherwise)

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  12. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    In a bizarre twist of logic, a longer wait statistically results in a higher than average favourable outcome (but it can mean someone has "lost" the file also unfortunately).

    The logic behind my statement is that something blatantly obviously a no-go will usually elicit a rapid, blunt response.

    Where there's a chance, ie: a borderline issue, it can mean that the case has been referred to the individual Service SME to determine whether, in their expert opinion, this particular issue is worth taking the chance and putting their name to taking the responsibility of letting you in "on risk". The reason it takes time is, same as in the NHS, service medical consultants have waiting lists.
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  13. Thanks for the feedback Ninja, appreciate the reply :)
  14. Yes, reading this, this is definitely where I am at right now, my AFCO said it had gone from one person to another at Portsmouth. I must be borderline with something... (I understand that this is purely general advice) But borderline with what would be good to know!

    In reading your previous comment on this thread about the contracted medical company being able to speak directly with candidates, I would, in my situation, agree with this, purely because my murmur was discovered at my Capita Medical, cause of said murmur currently unknown. Perhaps if I could engage with Capita more, I could gain an understanding of what could be wrong with the heart, and go for investigative tests under my own steam, instead of googling everything under the sun! Can rule out anything congenital though, happy days.

    I think my case is particularly tricky as it's an undiagnosed situation, whereas most other applicants seem to get snarled up with their existing, known conditions, such as Asthma etc...

    Nevertheless, thank you for the insight, and hopefully the new year will bring me some sort of outcome.

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  15. Received my medical outcome... After 2 attended medicals, 5 paper review medicals mingled in with an ECG, then an Echo, a specialists report and then a GP report all in the space of 17 months... I've been passed as Medically fit to enter! I then passed my PJFT 2 hours after my fifth paper review medical. Phew

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  16. Ninja_Stoker

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    Well done for having the patience to stick it out. I've no doubt we lose a good many candidates because they are kept in the dark for a considerable period and unable to communicate with the contracted company.

    On the plus side it demonstrates that at least you were afforded to opportunity to succeed. A quick answer is often "no"

    For the benefit of those that follow, if you know you have a condition that needs to be declared on the medical questionnaire, then it pays to produce a strong case in order to be passed fit from the outset rather than fail the initial medical, submit an appeal & go through the rigmarole of producing the required definitive medical evidence bit by bit as it is requested. Produce a solid case in support of your application from the outset & you may still need to be referred to a specialist for a decision, but it can save you a long wait & a lot of heartache and uncertainty along the way. Of course, hindsight is marvelous in retrospect but it pays to do the research.

    Best of luck.
  17. Thank you

    It's worth noting that my 'medical issue' causing the delay was actually picked up in my medical when the Dr listened to my heart using the stethoscope - I had no former medical record regarding heart issues and I was completely asymptomatic, hence my GP's surprise when I asked for ECG's and Echo's. Nevertheless, it's now onwards and upwards!

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  18. What kind of issues are the medically being failed on (if they're not too personal to say)?


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  19. I didn't 'fail' per say, I was made TMU and asked to investigate a heart murmur that was picked up. Everything else was passed on the day

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  20. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    Heart murmurs, hypermobility & colour perception deficiencies are commonly identified as hitherto-unknown issues during routine AFCO medicals.

    In my experience those with eyesight or hearing issues generally tend to know already but perhaps not the extent.

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